Episode 2: Finding 'The Cure' - building our ultimate Cure LP, Top 5 Movie Soundtracks and a stack more

[00:00:20] Middle Aged Dad Record Club. I'm Ash. I'm Matthew. And we are coming to you live from Ngunnawal Country here today. It is a beautiful day. And why is it a beautiful day, Matt? We've had a good week and I think we left our listeners on a bit of a cliffhanger last week with Radiohead tickets. I am pleased to report that we secured tickets with the help of my 18 year old daughters. What did we call it?

[00:00:50] Ballot Entry Registration. So we secured four and Ash and I are two of those lucky four. So lucky. We're heading to Sydney. May 31st, I think our show is. I think so. I have a confession, Matt. One of my mates got through too. I'm going on the 25th as well. Sydney. Sydney. It's that opening night? Yeah. Oh, nice. So that's like Tuesday and Tuesday. So I've got a week. I don't know what I'm going to do. I guess I'll drive back and forth.

[00:01:19] Are you standing? In both or? I don't know. I'll have to check. No, no, it's seated. So shout out to Tim, my saviour. Good work, Tim. I did finally get into the ballot, as you know, but by the time I'd opened it after work, it was booked. It was nothing there. Yeah. Oh, well done. Yeah. So yeah, top and tail of the, well, hopefully, hopefully, um, the shows coincide with those alternate set lists for you.

[00:01:48] If they follow the same. The set A, set B. They did in Europe. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I hope everyone else out there, um, that was seeking tickets has, um, has had luck as well. Um, but yeah, it's a, it's a pretty exciting times. Um, but anyway, uh, on with the show. Um, what's, what's on today? So, um, following our top 12 theme, we've got the Cure. Ooh. Top 12.

[00:02:17] And that's a, that's a heavy back catalog. Yeah. Lots of, lots of track. Distinct errors. And also a band we probably haven't spoken about together a lot. Like Radiohead, we've spoken to death about. Yeah. So this is going to be really interesting. So we've got a bit of a Cure theme, um, running through it. What else have we got today? So we've got top five movie soundtracks. Mm. Mm. And I think you put some guardrails on that, that it can't be a, can't be a, like a music

[00:02:46] doco or music theme. Otherwise it'd be, this is Spinal Tap five times. Yeah, that's right. So I've trawled back actually. I've gone right back into, um, my younger years for that one. Yeah. I'm excited. Never ending story. Never ending story. Well, it's got to be there, hasn't it? Lamal. Yeah. That's what it's like. Whining about a horse. Yeah. I'm thinking. Anyway, sorry for a trigger warning for people on that one. Um, okay. Well, look, without further ado, why don't we get straight into it?

[00:03:17] Um, so the first thing is our usual record club. We're going to start with what's spinning. So Matthew, what is spinning on your decks at the moment? So this week, um, in the interests of keeping podcast relationships strong, actually, I did a bit of a deep dive into your Claypool Lennon delirium. Really? I did. I did. I did sort of Ubering around, um, kids around, uh, Canberra. So, um, I liked it. I did like it.

[00:03:46] I started with that, what, that, what, what a predicament. I think you recommended that as the, and I really liked that one. It had a really good beatle-y feel to it. So. It's the most accessible, I reckon. Well, yes. And that gets me on to where, um, old mate Les, uh, started to come in. Yeah. Got a bit primacy at times. Yeah. But I must admit all the kind of Lenin-y bits that probably drowned out the primacy bits,

[00:04:15] but there were some sweet spots there. And, and that, that water predicament I think was, was, was really good. So I'll go back to it. Yeah. Cool. I thought it, I thought it was good. But other than that, um, I've been, um, bit of, bit of suede chat, um, last week. So just, just doing a bit of a deep dive into suede. It's funny how it just triggers you off to sort of go into it. It does go down a rabbit hole, right? And, um, yeah, just some B-sides and, um, different things there.

[00:04:44] Um, but the, the record that's really been spinning for me this week and is, and is new in terms of my vinyl collection is, um, um, they finished their world tour now and Pulp have released a live album. So it was done at their O2 London show, but same set list that they toured here in Australia. Cause you really enjoyed that concert. I loved it. Yeah. Steps to the Sydney Opera House. Raining, raining. I'm just not a Pulp fan. Yeah. Never really grabbed you. I don't know.

[00:05:14] Yeah. A couple of songs. Like I appreciate them, but not. Yeah. They're very, they're very British. Um, you know, probably to the left of blur in terms of that British leaning, but I've, I've always liked Pulp. Um, and I'd recommend, um, the live album's good. And we've, we've had a chat about live albums that, you know, there's some good ones, but often they sort of document a time. Yeah. And I find them good if, if I've kind of been lucky to be there.

[00:05:43] Yeah, that's true. So, um, you know, wanted to get this one. There's a great version of a, of a fantastic Pulp song called Something Changed, which they did in a stripped back way, sort of acoustic. That was really good. But it's just a great document for me of a, of a night in Sydney recently on the steps of the Opera House. Yeah. You know, so it's pretty, pretty magical. Teeming rain. It was great. I feel like we should definitely do a top five live albums. Cause there's a lot of dogs out there, like where it's just either poorly recorded or it's some kind of a, you know, bootleg.

[00:06:13] Yeah. But then there's some iconic ones, like Who's Live at Leeds, you know, Kisses Alive. I mean, that made the band, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, there's a lot, there's a lot there that we should get into. Yeah, definitely. Um, but that's sort of what, what's been going on my stereo this week. How about you, Ash? Well, uh, it hasn't exactly been spinning on my decks because I lent it to you. Um, so it's been more spinning on my, um, you know, Apple CarPlay. Um, and that's Jack White's new album, Frozen Charlotte.

[00:06:43] Again, not so new, but, um, it was, um, uh, I think July it was released. Uh, so this is his seventh solo album and I reckon is the closest to sort of throwback to the White Stripes time. Are you a White Stripes fan? What's your view on White Stripes? White Stripes.

[00:07:02] So I don't know why, but in the sort of early 2000s when they started getting quite big, I probably back to my sort of, you know, tribal Britpop days, sort of thought I chose the Strokes really over the White Stripes. I liked it. I liked this. I liked the White Stripes, but, you know, the concept of, you know, two people bashing away, um, some good people.

[00:07:27] I liked songs, but I can't say I've probably ever explored more than the singles. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I was, I remember there was a big day out. It was just after Hotel Yorba came out and I was dragging my girlfriend at the time to one of the side tents. I'm like, Oh, I've heard these, you know, this White Stripes are great. And I think it was either just on, they'd released White Blood Cells or around then. So they weren't huge, but it's not like I'm claiming I was there at the beginning or anything like that. Cause I think they'd toured Australia beforehand.

[00:07:54] Um, and I was, I was captured. I was just at that point, it's actually the same time coincidentally that I think, and it was the same big day out where Flaming Lips toured Yashimi Battles a Pink Robot. And it might've been different. It's all a blur. But anyway, that, that performance, I was just like, like to your point in like two people bashing out, but the energy was insane. Uh, and the, and the, anyway, back to the record. Cause otherwise it's forever.

[00:08:22] Um, so the big single is G.O.D. and the Broken Ribs. Absolute banger. Um, a couple of other highlights. I think the solo and Neighbours Blues, which is the closer is, um, just classic Jack White. Like just the tone is beautiful. Like his tone is always amazing. Um, and I'm super jealous that you got to go to Third Man Records. I did. I did. I, I, I, I came by it. I was actually looking to buy a pair of sunglasses in Soho.

[00:08:51] Um, just, just. That's the most like preppy thing I've ever heard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I found the sunglasses. Um, and, um, I'd been, I was on a mission. They weren't right. Anyway, I took, walked up, um, further and, um, I saw Third Man Records. That, that was delightful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Two stories. Um, all in that yellow and black kind of branding. Yeah. So absolutely respect the guy. Yeah. And it's another one that, you know, um, all of his back catalog.

[00:09:20] Do you find sometimes though, when someone's got quite the back catalog, it's almost intimidating to sort of make that. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. This was my first dip back into Jack White solo albums after quite some time. Um, I got a mate, she went and saw him in concert, um, and was raving about it. And I was like, Oh God, I've been a Jack White solo album in ages. Um, and so when this came out, I was like, I'll get her a listen. And I, I, I clicked, I clicked the link to her. I was like, Oh, you should listen. She loved it too.

[00:09:48] But, um, yeah, it's, it's funny, isn't it? Um, but just on third man record, huge collab that he does, um, on guitar pedals with all of them. Oh, and some of them are phenomenal. Like anyway, we won't get into the guitar nerd stuff. My top pick from the album though is you'll never fix me. I think that is just, um, like a classic, um, Jack White can be a bit samey, but this one is like, it's got a real groove. Nice. I've got to admit, I haven't listened to it yet.

[00:10:16] Ash, it is sitting in a, in a, in a stack of vinyls upstairs. So, oh, I will get to it. You've got a long list of things to it. Yeah. Um, cool. All right. Um, what's coming up? What's a coming up release or issue or something? Do you know what? Um, I don't actually have anything. Um, I think I mentioned two last week, um, that, uh, that, uh, uh, coming up.

[00:10:42] So, um, it's a, it's a, it's a sort of deep dive into things that I've already got. To be honest, the, the pulp, the pulp album will keep me busy, but nothing on the horizon. So I've got a, got a bit of a gap there. I was actually looking through, um, our local record store, new arrivals. And there's usually something that would jump off. Yeah. But no.

[00:11:07] Well, I was hoping that I would have in my hot little hands, Bex new album, Ride Lonesome, which came out on Friday. Okay. But because of ship shipping delays or international delays, um, when I called, um, Landspeed, they're like, Oh, get it next week. So no one's got it. It's no good. So I, here I was thinking I'd have all weekend to listen to it and it's not there. So, uh, we'll have to hold that one over. Yeah. We've both got a little, uh, a little vacancy.

[00:11:35] One thing I will call out though coming up, which is probably more for record collecting nerd. Cause I would hate to say this is anything, a cash in reissue, but, um, it's Rubber Soul's big birthday. And on 2nd of October, they have a full deluxe edition coming out. One of those big, like they did with Revolver. Yeah. So Rubber Soul and Revolver, my two favorite Beatle albums.

[00:12:00] And honestly, Rubber Soul probably nicks Revolver every now and then, depending on the mood. Anyway, it's 68 tracks. Um, yeah. So a lot of those kind of, um, different pieces that you got in the anthology series. Um, I also bought that volume four anthologies came out. Like I love all that bits where they have the little kind of recording pieces and, you know, the little trills that they do with the jokes. I love that stuff.

[00:12:27] You wonder, looking at the Revolver box set as well, you know, how can there be stuff left? I know. I know. Because their anthologies were, were fairly, you know, they were, they were picked up a lot of it. Well, it's 60, 68 tracks. Although I'm just looking through now and, uh, disc three is a mono. So cool. I like that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then disc four is the U S, um, release. Okay.

[00:12:54] So I feel like they're padding that one, but then there's lots of demos and different takes of, um, some pretty classic songs. Right. So, um, look, I'm not, I'm not going to lie, but I'll see how much it is. So I think the Revolver one was, was it two 50 or something? It's kind of outrageous, right? It's the same as Neil Young's harvest. Like I love that. I'll be coming back to that at some point. Um, I just can't bring myself to get it.

[00:13:24] Same with Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska when they released the new Nebraska 82. I love a good box set, but yeah, when, when it's just, it's just the newness of stuff. Sometimes, um, I have to show you, actually, I did get, I did get a full Beatles box set on a recent trip to Japan. The second hand one, um, it's beautiful. Yeah. Stereo version. Yeah.

[00:13:50] Um, but yeah, cause my, my vinyl collection with the Beatles is a bit patchy. Oh, right. And I always thought, well, I'm just going to go large on a box set at some point. And I did this recently. Um, I made my, my daughter carried around, uh, the streets of Shibuya for about two hours. I hope it isn't the same one that's getting us radio head ticket. No. Oh, that's fine. And I actually, I, I carried it around. I think she, she did some, uh, it was, it was, uh, it was tricky to get back cause it's about four kilos. Oh my gosh. And you don't want to drop that.

[00:14:20] You don't. Awesome. Okay. Well, um, we've got, before we crack into our main piece on the cure, we thought we'd just do a quick little mousse bush, a nice little palette cleanser as it were. Um, so quick little rapid fire. And this is one is going to be overrated, underrated or properly rated. Now the key is you cannot justify it. You just have to live or die on your hot take.

[00:14:45] And then at the end, if there's ones particularly on the overrated that you say, I want to park that for a future chat. We can do that, but there is no way to justify. You have to stick to your hot takes. So it's just, it's just what comes into your mind. Yeah. Your immediate take. Your immediate take as raw as it can be. All right. And you're going to get, you're going to get, well, actually I'm going to get flamed. We'll see how we go.

[00:15:13] But so we'll shoot five bands or artists at each other. Yeah. Um, and then we'll go five in a row. Like I give you my five. Let's do it that way. So we, so for the listeners benefit, we have no idea what each of us is going to raise. I think I know probably one or two, but, um, let's see how we go. So do you want to go first? I'll go. All right. All right. The killers. Oh, um, overrated in the 2000s. Underrated now. Interesting. Oasis.

[00:15:47] I've got to say overrated now. I'm going to get killed. Dave, Dave, look, I, I know where you're coming from. Like they, just with the live thing, it's like the Messiah was returning. Yeah. It was a bit, it was, it was a lot. It was a lot. But then if, if you'd asked me a year ago, it'd be like, oh, underrated. Where are we? Yeah. Yeah. This is hard. Okay. You're going. Pearl jam. I think properly rated. Probably. I mean, you know, no, no justification. Okay. Yeah. Proper. All right. The rolling stones.

[00:16:17] Overrated. I agree. I agree. And here's the curve ball. Missy Higgins. Ooh. Underrated. Greed. Yeah. I really love that. Big talent. I saw it live last year or the year before. Amazing. Amazing. Boys is amazing. Underrated. Yeah. Massively. Okay. All right. Here you go. Jeff Buckley. Overrated. Cover singer. Nirvana. About right.

[00:16:47] Ooh. Interesting. About right. About right. The pretenders. Underrated. I don't think they get the chops in terms of their influence. No. Exactly. Particularly in the like punk and post-punk. 100%. Yeah. Oh. Kiss. Overrated. Oh. Dress up. I am going to convince you. This is God is my witness. I will convince you of Kiss.

[00:17:18] Are they a real band? Yes. They're amazing. Oh. I love Kiss. Okay. That's good. I needed to set that barometer because now I know I need to just convert you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And last one. Lemonheads. Underrated. I think about right for people who know. Yes. That run in the early 90s. Genius. Yeah. Underrated. And we both read his book recently. Yeah. Which we'll have to come back to at some point. We should do a Lemonheads episode. We should.

[00:17:47] And you know. Actually. I sort of feel like Evan and also my live experiences have really tried to kind of chip away at the legacy of Lemonheads. Especially like. It's been pretty ratty. Yeah. But underrated. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll save Lemonheads for another time because. Let's do it. We can go deep on that one. Anyway, that was more excruciating than I thought it would be. That's hard. It's hard. Yeah. Especially without content. And we come in peace, don't we? We do.

[00:18:17] Yeah. We love all music. We love all of those. Yeah. Name checked. But can I just pick one out that I reckon is a good take. Yeah. That we both agree on. Rolling Stones. Yeah. I don't know what it is. It's never clicked for me. They've got some good tracks. But they're not up there with the Beatles. Let's be honest. No. That's the thing I think. They're always in that conversation. I think that's probably where I'm coming from. I'm like, the Beatles is like, it is beautiful. It is everything. And Rolling Stones, yeah, they've got some good songs. I think so. Yeah. You don't see the Beach Boys.

[00:18:46] Like, Pet Sounds is seminal. Yeah. But you don't see them held up the same way. Yeah. Even though they're directly inspired. I'm thinking of all the Rolling Stones songs I do like now. So I like a lot. There is a lot. But I just think if you compare that sort of streak, the Beatles and the Rolling Stones putting aside everything from the 80s onwards, Beatles are untouchable. And I wonder how much of that because they continued on.

[00:19:13] Whereas the Beatles had that kind of streak of fire and then they were gone. And there was never a – like, can you imagine like Mullet era, Paul McCartney rocking out with the Beatles. Yeah. I mean, there were some great songs on Wednesday. I mean, that's the other thing. Like, George, John and Paul's solo albums were pretty great. Yeah. That's another one we'll do, solo albums of the Beatles. Oh, yeah.

[00:19:42] Yeah, because I've got some thoughts and feelings about that. Well, that's what we're here for is thoughts and feelings. So I think we're hitting a cracking pace of this being even longer than the last episode. So bear with us, listeners. There's a lot to go through. There's so much to go through. Luckily, we've signed up for a 100-episode season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. It's all free as well. It's all free. So what are you planning about? We love feedback. All right.

[00:20:09] We'll have a quick little music interlude and then we'll be back to hit the Cure.

[00:20:13] Live on the Cure.

[00:20:41] So same rules as always. Your ultimate Cure LP. So this is 12 tracks, six a side. Obviously, focus on the opener and the turn and the closer and all the good things. But it can't be just a greatest hits because actually, Cure's greatest hits album's really good. I picked that one up at Record Store Day last year. So this is one that we haven't talked about. So I have no idea what you're going to do. Okay. I'm kind of really excited.

[00:21:10] And I'm also interested what areas of Cure you pick up. So do you want to kick us off? Let's do this. All right. So the Cure 12. So I know last week I talked a big game of maintaining the integrity on albums. So I've been trying to do that, but there's been a late change. Been a late change. So doing some household duties this morning and really had a long, hard thinking.

[00:21:38] And so I was going to go with a one-two opening, which I think, you know, they go together for me. I was going to go with Plains Song and Pictures of You as a one-two. Yep. But after listening to Songs of a Lost World right through this week, twice, I've actually decided to crack on with Alone. Alone.

[00:22:07] That's how they opened their recent tour in Europe, Alone into Pictures of You. Yeah. Yeah. So Alone and then Pictures of You. So it does maintain that set list integrity and also one-two track. But, you know, I was really wanting to keep that disintegration era integrity. But Alone is amazing. Yeah. And I would go so far as to say I think The Cure are right up there in terms of opening tracks.

[00:22:37] Some majestic. That's true. Not only the opening tracks, but intros to songs. Oh, yeah. These two, three-minute layered masterpieces. So, yeah. Alone, Straight into Pictures of You. Love it. Then I've gone to raise the mood a bit and I've gone with Boys Don't Cry. I've gone with the recently released 40-year anniversary remix. The 86 version. 86, 26 version. Yeah.

[00:23:05] I think Robert Smith puts on Wales a bit at the end over it. And it's just a nicely sort of jazzed up. Really good version. So I love that. Beautiful song. Then I've gone Friday I'm in Love. Interesting. I wasn't sure if you picked that. Keeping that poppy. Yeah. No. So my Cure experience was I felt when I was sort of really getting into, I suppose, alternative music in the early 90s,

[00:23:32] I already felt like the Cure were old men, you know, that they had sort of passed me by a bit and they were for that sort of mid-80s generation. But the album Wish came out about 92. Yeah. And Friday I'm in Love, massive pop hit. Yeah. And it made me rethink what I thought of The Cure in terms of I think a lot of people don't think they're a wonderful pop band. And they are. They're a massive pop band, aren't they?

[00:24:01] I mean, they have some of the best love songs of all time. They do. They do. And they're wistful and whimsical and all those good things. And then they're also super depressing. Yeah. Yeah. They've got that light and shade. So I did Friday I'm in Love. It's a beautiful track. And I never skip that one. No. That's how I know I like it. Actually, that's true. Especially on a Friday. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. We were supposed to record this podcast on Saturday morning at 2, 10, 15 a.m. We were. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:24:29] And it's so sprightly. Yeah. It's a sprightly little number. And do you know just a little recording history of that song? He was doing some sort of pitch variation, just messing around in the studio, Robert Smith. And he accidentally tuned it up. So it was actually recorded in D or something, E minor pitch up. Yeah.

[00:24:55] So it's got that kind of twangy kind of pitched up frequency. I didn't know that. Which I think gives it that sort of pop sheen. Yeah. Like kind of breaks through the mix a little bit. It does. Yeah. It does. But it was an accident. Happy accident. So Friday I'm in Love. Yeah. So then I've gone with another Wish classic, High. High. Yeah. I love High. Yeah. I've always loved that one. Always really, really enjoyed that.

[00:25:25] Great lyrics. It's just a good song. Yeah. I really like it. And so. Are you at the turn now? No, I'm on track six. Yeah. The turn. Is that the turn? Yeah. Oh, it is too. Sorry. Yes. So I've gone with another Songs of Lost World. So track two off that, which is And Nothing Is Forever.

[00:25:50] And I actually think that's one of the Cure's best ever songs. And I know that's a big call. But it's. We're all about the hot takes. It's. You're younger than me, Ash. Yeah. And whilst, you know, I hope I have many years ahead of me, many summers ahead of me. And I know Robert's quite old now. How old is he? Mid-60s? Yeah. He'd have to be older than that. Is he? Yeah. Yeah. He's getting old, isn't he?

[00:26:20] But some of the lyrics of that song, it's just, it's so sad. But also, you know, he talks of that my world has grown old, but it doesn't really matter if we say we'll be together. If you promise you'll be with me in the end. It's deep stuff. It is. And I know, you know, Cure have been a band, I think, probably from when he was about 18, 19. He was talking about mortality and the meaning of life.

[00:26:48] But it takes on a bit of a deeper resonance, I think. When you stare at the face. Staring at the face, right. We really have moved into middle-aged dad. We have. Part of our record club. And we've moved into depressed Cure mode quite quickly after Friday, I'm in love. But yeah, that's... Bring some love cats out. Yeah, that's right. Well, look, Ash, I'm pleased to say that I'm now going to hit you and the listeners up with Just Like Heaven. Yeah. So that's your opening for Second Side. Second Side.

[00:27:17] So, you know, we kind of went down a bit of a what's this all about life? And then Just Like Heaven, you know, turn the vinyl over. Yeah. Best pop song ever for me. I was about to say that. Yeah. Well, I should hold that thought because my next track is In Between Days. So I've gone with a double punch pop. That is a nice... Yeah. That's a nice double though. Yeah. And it was really good to see having been... I willingly went, but I went to see Olivia Rodrigo with my family a couple years ago.

[00:27:47] She's great value. Yeah. And I don't know if you saw Robert Smith came out. Yeah. Was it Glastonbury? No. Yeah. Glastonbury. Yeah. Did two songs. Just Like Heaven was one of them. And he actually guests on a new album. Oh, really? Yeah. What's Wrong With Me. A great song. Really good. Check it out. Yeah. But good on Olivia. Yeah. I listened to her last one. My daughter's a big fan of Good For You. Yeah. Even though we have to beep out the swear word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:17] No, Olivia Rodrigo. Good value. So yeah, Pop Punch of Just Like Heaven, In Between Days. Bringing it back a bit. Another single here. I know I've gone a bit greatest hits heavy, but I've gone with Close To Me. Ah, yes. Yeah. Darker. Another video that used to give me the heebie-jeebies. Yeah. You know, Buried Alive Vibes in the Coffin. Oh, it brings me out, that one. Same with Lullaby. Ooh. And here's a question for you.

[00:28:44] Is it true that the very presence of hand claps in a song make a song 10% better? Hmm. Hmm. Because I'm a sucker for hand claps. I do love a hand clap. Yeah. I do. And you know what? Because that's when you take your hands off the steering wheel and you put your life in Jesus' hands and you go for the hand clap. You go for the hand clap. Because the music demands it. And maybe this is a conversation for another day, but I've always wondered why hand claps used in a, you know, in a, that.

[00:29:15] It's a British thing. Oh, is it? It's a British thing. And I've thought about why that is. And if you think about even in the 60s, the faces, the who. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of hand claps going on. Yeah. And then that was really picked up again in that mid-90s. A lot of hand claps in British music. And I'd like to know why. Interesting. So if anyone could tell us. I've got a theory. Hmm. I've got a theory around it being a bit football-y. Oh, yeah.

[00:29:44] Like Brits are a bit sort of communal football-y, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't see a lot of hand claps in American music outside of Motown stuff. Got to be a hand clap option. But anyway, big shout out to Close To Me because. I reckon that could be a good top five battle. Top five hand claps. Top five hand claps. And I'd like to see you. That's what the people demand it. I'd like to see you do one take of Close To Me hand claps, no mistakes. Because that's tricky. That's hard.

[00:30:14] It's a hard one. It's a – because it's sort of off. Yeah. It's off. All right. Push on. It's great. Yeah. Close To Me. Then this one forced its way on, Love Song. Yeah. Biggest hit for the cure in the US. And I was overseas in Thailand for a few years working. And I had a great friend from the US.

[00:30:39] And he really – he was probably a bit unhealthily obsessed with Love Song. He used to talk about it all the time. Like, you know how when you're out for a couple of drinks, someone can turn the conversation to a band or a movie and you see what they're doing. He would go to the song often. Yeah. It was weird. But he really loved it. And so I always think of him when I think of that song. And not in a weird way. It's a bit lovey-dovey.

[00:31:06] I know that's actually sort of vows to his wife, Love Song. But it's a great song. It's beautiful. And, yeah, I don't think of him. Okay. That'll sound a bit weird. He was the one who made it – he's the one who made it, you know, an important song to me in terms of making me listen to it. Okay. Yeah, love it. So back to Wish then. Yep. And I've gone with From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea.

[00:31:36] Wow. Yeah. That is a deep cut. That's a deep cut. And you know how I was saying before, like, 92, like, I was all about that sort of early UK, you know, Stone Roses-y type stuff. But that got me in. I liked it. So then we're going to finish – and again, this is a bit of a – this is a bit of a toss-up between Disintegration and the last album. But I have gone with Untitled from Disintegration.

[00:32:05] But I was looking at End Song very, very closely. And I love the way they just call stuff like Plain Song, End Song. Yeah. It's great. Very creative. Yeah. So it's a long album, Ash. That is a long album. I think it's a good 70-minute plus of it, you know. Yeah. I like it. All right. Well, there is some good overlap, but interesting – a couple not in yours that I'm surprised about. We'll get to those.

[00:32:30] And then there's a regretfulness that I feel like I wouldn't like to correct. And for the records, I made that change just before we started recording, and now I regret it. But that's fine. All right. So I'll start. My favourite – I've got two favourites, and they start and close my 12. First one, A Forest. Ooh, early. I love that song. It's hypnotic. I love playing it on guitar.

[00:33:00] I love the – so basically, when that bass kicks in, it's got a real 80s dance vibe. And Liz is going to be able to see this, but like Emilio Estevez punch dancing, which is what I'm doing right now, and Matt's very impressed with how amazing it is. I just wish we could see – I thought I saw Emilio in the flesh then. It was crazy. So it's like Breakfast Club. You know when he starts with that punch dancing? I do. As soon as that bass comes on. Is that a movie soundtrack spoiler? You just mentioned Breakfast Club.

[00:33:29] I've got movie soundtrack vibes there. I might be spoiling two of my picks later on. But anyway – I didn't think you were that side of – because I was thinking that. Oh, yeah. I love – well, so not really, but I've got a couple, a couple that I dip into. I'm definitely more on the pop side of the cure, but okay. I'll keep going. So my first pick off the new album, I went with I Can Never Say Goodbye. I like that one. But I also like your choice too. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:33:58] And I did contemplate the Alone Pictures of You combo. Yeah. But didn't get there. Third one, surprising you didn't have any picks off this album because I think it's a cracking album, is the album Pornography, and that is Cold. Cold? Yeah. Jeez. Okay. Really. Like, it's a real vibe, and I think with a forest into – I Can Never Say Goodbye – into

[00:34:24] Cold, it is like – there's like really heavy drones, and there's really kind of – there's a real sense. Like, the cure used synths better than any band, I think. Yeah. And that song is, I think, best example of it. Then I move into Love Song. Love Song. Disintegration, probably, other than songs – Who does it remind you of? Love Song. Give me a person.

[00:34:50] Well, there was this old guy that used to hang around the – you know, I'm kidding. Yeah. The most beautiful love song. Oh, it's amazing. It's so nice. And Disintegration is just the best album. Yeah. Is it peak cure? Yes, until Song of the Lost World came around, and I was like, honestly, I couldn't believe it. They have no right to be making that album. Amazing. In 2026. It just like came out of nowhere.

[00:35:20] Where was that hiding? Amazing. Anyway, if they tour, I'm just on there. Yeah. I might be more excited to see the Cure tour this album than seeing Radiohead again. Yeah. Oh, damn. I've never seen the Cure. I saw them at Livid 2000, but I was young, and by that stage, I was pretty cooked. Yeah. So, I think we'd be heavily drinking most of the day. So, I don't actually remember that much of the concert, but I remember hanging out for it, because Lou Reed came on after. Lou Reed? Yeah. They had Green Day. They had Cure.

[00:35:49] Was that when Livid was just in Brisbane? Yeah. Yeah, right. Because then I went to a Livid Festival in 2002 in Melbourne. Oh, yeah. They toured it a bit. They toured it, and then I think they kind of bowled it after that. Yeah, Morrissey. Oh, really? Yeah. The Oasis as well, yeah. Okay. Moving on. Another pornography hit. I wonder if they're going to censor our podcast, because I said that word. Pornography? Yeah. Well, I never said it like three times. I thought you were setting up to say a real swear word there.

[00:36:21] All right. So, this one's Hanging Garden. Oh, nice. And this is the late change. Yeah. That's a good shout. So, this is the late change. I'll explain it at the end, why I'm kind of a bit upset. But, yeah, I think that's great. And then I close out the first side with Alone. Alone. So, I thought like a nice, I think it's an opener or it's a closer on something, right? Did you find with Alone that it felt in the most wonderful way,

[00:36:51] like a cue a song that you'd always loved? Yeah. Like straight away. Yeah. Just felt like they're back. Yeah. It's crazy good. It's timeless, but also of its time, but also modern. Yeah. No, it doesn't feel like a sort of pastiche of them. And the video clip's surprisingly like calming. The big rolling asteroid thing. Yes. Yeah. It's amazing. All right. Side two. Don't worry. Okay. It gets less depressed. This is a similar theme to your radio head first side.

[00:37:20] I need to go see someone. You start off sad. All right. I also picked the 86 mix, Boys Don't Cry. And I love it because the bit where he goes with the more. Yeah. Yeah. It's fantastic. It's just a nice cut, but also that song is just like amazing. Yeah. Such a good song. And then moving on the same album. Well, originally and with a similar vibe, jumping someone else's train. Oh yeah.

[00:37:49] I don't know if I know that one. It's a similar kind of sound, similar kind of vibe and kind of just a little, maybe just a little bit more gritty. But yeah, have a listen. It's great. Yeah. It's off the same album. Um, but yeah, off Three Maddenary Boys as well. So pretty old, old, old school cure, but, um, great. I'll give that one a listen. And then just like Evan off Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me. Yeah. Such a good song. Yeah. It's got to be there.

[00:38:20] Here's, this song is what got me into the cure. And it was early nineties. Uh, young Ash was a big, huge fan of any kind of action movie. Dread song from the Judge Dread soundtrack. Right. Uh, it's on, they've got a rarities album where it's on as well. Um, you've got to listen to it.

[00:38:46] It's very obscure unless you've listened to the Judge Dread soundtrack, which, uh, we might be hearing about again later on. Um, but yeah, because I love Judge Dread and like Sylvester Stallone. Do you remember their song, the cure song, burn from the crow? No. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I should, how did that not come up in the, when I was looking at it? Anyway. That's a great song. Anyway, Dread song, check it out. And then I close with Pictures of You. Oh, you're closing with that.

[00:39:16] Yeah. And that's my second favorite song. A Forest and Pictures of You. So, but because I get a secret song, which you forgot about from last time, I'm going to have End Song as my secret track. Me too. Can I do that as well? You finished with End Song? Yeah. No, no, no. I finished with, um, Untitled. Disinteraction. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Can I have End Song? All right. We both have End Song. I'm going to leave a good 10 minute gap. Ooh. Yeah. Wow. You'd be asleep by then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I think, I think, I think it would be good.

[00:39:44] End Song just coming into your dreams, right? Yeah. I like it. That's nice. And then, so Hanging Garden, it had to compete with two songs off Wish because I don't have any other songs on Wish. And that is Friday I'm In Love, which we talked about. And A Letter to Elise. A Letter to Elise got crossed out on mine. Yeah. It's close. Hey. I feel, I stand by Hanging Garden over Letter to Elise. Letter to Elise was going to close out side one for me. Oh yeah. Good stuff.

[00:40:12] That's just such a, like you look at that, both lists, right? And the, like just the range of songs. Yeah. I feel like The Cure are very underrated. I, I, I actually think they're one of the most, I think they're the biggest cult band in the world and they're underrated because of that. Yeah. And I just think, I just think they're, they're also misunderstood. I was just going to say that. Yeah. It's like people take a look at it and they're like, oh, you know, it's whatever. Emo. Yeah. But they're. And so musical.

[00:40:41] Like, like I found out he, he plays like the Fender basses, which are the six string ones. So similar to the one that George Harrison and that were using in, in Let It Be at the End. And because of that, it's sort of like almost like a baritone kind of thing. And he's got a signature guitar, which is like that. So really thick strings. And like, like I said, like their use of synth, their use of tones that, but then mixed with like really good songwriting. Like fantastic songwriting.

[00:41:09] I think if, yeah, I just, again, I know they're different, but it's a definition of alternative, right? Like it's just, this is love song and really good pop songs just done differently. Totally. Totally. And they always get a pass from me as well on how long they take between albums. Because we're, say like when Songs of Lost World came out, not in an overly labored way, but you can feel the craft, you know, the layering, the thinking at times overthinking,

[00:41:37] but that's part of their charm, I think. And I like how collaborative they are. Like they remix, they get their remixes done. Like I even picked up that Songs of Lost World remix, which is great. Some really nice versions. A couple of them were going to make it in, but I thought I'd keep it straight. But yeah, it's love the cure. We're there. We're there when they tour because they're, they're a real, they're a real gap for me. And my, they're comfortably in my top 20 bands and they're probably the only top 20 band I haven't seen live actually. So, um.

[00:42:07] Except for Kiss, of course. Yes. Yeah. Kiss live. But you can go see Kiss with your mate. Maybe I've seen them without all the, all the dress ups and makeup on. This Kiss hatred is not going to stand. All right. We'll take a quick little break and then we're doing top five movie soundtracks.

[00:42:54] So this time we are going to do movie soundtracks, but the condition is they cannot be movies about music or predominantly on music. That's very vague. Um, but I think it will eliminate things like Spinal Tap, A Mighty Wind, both of which are all time bangers. And if you haven't seen those movies, you need to. Um, I think it knocks out things like musicals. Thank God.

[00:43:26] I don't mind some musicals. No. Um, but like, like a Hamilton, like that soundtrack to that would be on. Damn it. Okay. That's number five. Oh, no. So no musicals, no movies about music and nothing that's like a vehicle for a musician. Hmm. But we can play at the edges of that. I get you. Yeah. I get you. So top five. I'll start. Yeah. Um, can I just say we're never doing a top five musicals ever.

[00:43:53] We've got literally an entire episode dedicated to musicals. You and your mama mia fascination. Yeah, that's right. It's, it's all love songs about your mate from Thailand. We're going to edit that bit out. All right. Okay. So I'll start. Number five. Rock and roll high school. The movie from, uh, 1970s, whatever it was. Um, this was a movie.

[00:44:22] This is close. This is close because it was almost a vehicle for the Ramones. Yeah. But it's not. Okay. And the soundtrack's quite varied as well. Checking upstairs on this one. Yes. Whether it's okay. It's close. But it was a movie like in that, like really late seventies kind of when there was like, you know, like the porkies and national lampoos. Yeah. It had that vibe. Like, yeah, it wanted to be animal house, but it wasn't. The movie's kind of average, but one, the Ramones. Oh, my love. They soundtracked it. Yep.

[00:44:52] All of it. No. So that's the other thing. So a few, um, uh, so, so it goes by Nick Lowe. Shout out to Zane for his love of Nick Lowe. Um, Brian Eno's on it. Um, there's some kind of schools, schools out by Alice Cooper. Like it's, it's pretty fun. There's actually only two Ramones songs, which is obviously rock and roll high school, which is a great song. And I want you around, which was their love song that they did on the same one.

[00:45:19] So it's like late seventies, um, kind of vibe with, with the music. It's even Devo song. Oh God, we got to talk about Devo at some point. Yeah. Um, I really like it and I got it obviously cause I was a Ramones fan and then I liked the rest of the soundtrack. That's why it's on it. Interesting. Yep. Okay. So my number five, I'm also digging back, um, right back into my early years.

[00:45:50] I've gone with the Top Gun soundtrack. Kenny Loggins. Kenny Loggins, the man. I mean, you know, I think he went footloose and then Top Gun. Yeah. Um, he was, he was the top dog. He was. Kenny, Kenny. Oh, Kenny. So, um, yeah. Danger Zone. Um, even that take my breath away, the Berlin song. Yeah. I mean that mid eighties movie soundtrack and, and then you'd get the video clips with

[00:46:17] the clips from the movie before the movie came out. So yeah. Top dog, Kenny Loggins, um, Top Gun is my number five. Oof. Danger Zone. Um, all right. Number four for me is, uh, Dan in Real Life. This is a Steve Carell, um, uh, movie, uh, I'd say mid two thousands. I've got a few from this era too. The main thing here is it introduced me to an artist called Sondra Lurk.

[00:46:48] Um, and I had never heard him before, but he does pretty much the whole, um, album. He also does a cover of Pete Townsend's Let My Love Open The Door. And I think it's my favorite version of it. As in, well, it is because I don't really like the Pete Townsend version. So you've got to listen to that just separately. Sondra Lurk, Let My Love Open The Door. But also the, um, he does a duet with Regina Spector called Hell No, which is great.

[00:47:18] Um, and then, um, he's got some like, so To Be Surprised and I'll Be Okay. I really like on that too. Honestly, it's like a Sondra Lurk album. But, um, if you listen to some of his stuff, his stuff's a lot more kind of upbeat, jazzy and weird. He's sort of like a, I don't know, Scandinavian Beck. Um, but anyway, I'd never heard of him before. And where does that place it for me in terms of Steve Carell? So, yeah.

[00:47:46] So this is Steve Carell when he did a turn towards dramatic. Right. So like kind of. Is it after 40 year old? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. After all the big comedies. Yeah. But before. I think that little Miss Sunshine. Yeah. Right. Yeah. This was just in, in between. So he plays, um, I think his wife dies or something like that. And he's like this sort of depressed widowed thing. And then he finds love and he's dealing with his family and you know, just one of those kinds of movies. Okay. Um, the soundtrack is excellent.

[00:48:16] Nice. That's nine. Number four. Number four. Okay. For me, number four is a Life Less Ordinary. Oh. Danny Boyle film. Yeah. Ewan McGregor, Cameron Diaz. Yeah. It's a good film. Yeah. Um, but the soundtrack, really good. Do you know the soundtrack? I do. And I know the song you're going to mention too. Yeah. So there's a few off there. There's a Life Less Ordinary, the Ash track, of course.

[00:48:43] That's a, I think that, that was the, the track that introduced Charlotte Hathaway to, to the band. In fact, I was named after that band. No. I was doing the maths there. I thought, bloody hell. Hey, they probably named the band after you. Actually, I think they did. I think they did. They had a look around from Ireland into, uh, you know, Queensland and they were like, this guy. They knew at some point you would be a podcaster with at least eight followers. That's generous.

[00:49:13] You were the guy. Yeah. Yeah. But that's a great soundtrack. I mean, it's, um, it could be higher. It could be higher. It could be higher, but, um, you know, some of the, the REM, Oasis, uh, Beck, um, their, their tracks off albums and stuff. So it felt like a really good compilation more than a soundtrack. Can I make a bold guess? This is not the only Danny Boyle soundtrack on your list, is it? Correct. I know you so well.

[00:49:42] Um, yeah. So life less ordinary. Yeah. Not often talked about. No. Outside of the Ash song. Yes. Which Ash fans love. Yes. Yeah. The band, not you. And you. Well, and me. Yeah. Both of you. I do like that. We'll have to get into Ash at some point too. We will. Well, and 1977's having its 30th anniversary too. Yeah. We should use that time to talk about that. We should actually. Okay. My number three is, I already talked about it a bit before, and that is Judge Dredd. The Sylvester Stallone 1993, uh, masterpiece.

[00:50:12] Um, and I won't hear any people talk against that. Judge Dredd, Sylvester Stallone does not necessarily sound like it would equal great soundtrack. Well, that's what you'd think. Yeah. But this is the opening, uh, four songs before you get to the Alan Silvestri score, which is phenomenal. Um, one, Dredd song by The Cure, which I talked about and you got to listen to. Second, Darkness Falls by The The.

[00:50:41] Three, Supercharger Heaven by White Zombie. Jeez. And then, um, Need Fire by Cocktail Twins. Uh, and then Release the Pressure by Leftfield. Um, that's the, that's the first five before it gets to the actual soundtrack soundtrack. Um, but the ultimate is track eight, Blockwater, instrumental by Alan Silvestri. Like the, it's like the Empire March in Star Wars kind of territory. It is so good.

[00:51:10] Uh, fun little personal aside. When I was, um, uh, waiting for my beautiful bride to walk down the aisle, uh, in rehearsals, I may have put that on, uh, with my groomsmen, um, just as a bit of a joke. Just walking. But like, when you think about it, when you go and listen to what you like. Nice. Did that, was that for the ceremony or just the rehearsal? No, that was rehearsal because otherwise I would be divorced before I was married. So. What was it? Did you have a first wedding dance song? Uh.

[00:51:40] You'll like ours. Yes. Our, ours was Supertramp, um, uh, give a little bit. Oh, nice. Yeah. Nice. Ours was, um, here, there and everywhere by the Beatles. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. Well, um, the organist at the church we got married played, I want to hold your hand on the organ. Nice. Much better than Blockwater, but also Blockwater's pretty good. Yeah. Anyway, have a listen to it. Yeah, right. And then I apologise to my love, the wife, for sharing that story, but it was hilarious. Um, so that's it.

[00:52:08] My, uh, number three is Judge Strip. Okay, my number three is, uh, from a Mike Myers movie called So I Married an Axe Murderer. I love that movie. It's a great movie. It's a really good movie. It's fantastic. It was pre-Austin Powers, right? Um, it's a really, really good movie. If anyone hasn't seen it, you should see the movie. It's Mike Myers at his best. But a really good soundtrack, um, um, for me.

[00:52:36] Um, Boo Radley's The Lars, Suede. Um, and, uh, a band called Ned's Tom McDustman, um, who do a great cover of Saturday Night. Ned's Tom McDustman. I will, I will, I will talk about them in future episodes. They're, uh, they're, they're very much of that early 90s, uh, UK alternative scene. Um, yeah, they do a great version of the Bay City Roller's Saturday Night. Yeah, it's really good.

[00:53:04] And the, um, the cast from So I Married an Ex-Murderer, including Mike Myers are in the video and stuff. It's good. Great little soundtrack. And, uh, it started, I think, the run of, um, it was almost, um, you were contractually obliged at a certain point to have There She Goes by the Lars on the soundtrack at some point. Um, in the 90s and that had it, um, it's got a top car drives off into the, uh, into the scene and it's got to have that song play.

[00:53:33] So great, great film, great soundtrack. I'm looking for that one on vinyl. It's hard to come by. I don't think that I have seen that one. Um, I've seen some like pretty interesting ones kind of come up, but never seen that one. No, no. Um, all right. My number two is Reality Bites. Mmm. Winona. Winona. Ethan. Ben Stiller? Yeah. Crazy.

[00:53:58] Um, so just a really nice, um, grouping of like early nineties songs. Um, so obviously the big one that everyone would know is, um, um, my Sharona. Yeah. Uh, going back to our, uh, Lemonheads chat, um, Julia, uh, Julian and Hatfield three spin the bottle. Spin the bottle. Um, stay by Lisa Lower. I really love that. You too. All I want is you. Boo. Um, locked out by Crowded House. That's a, that's.

[00:54:28] That's great. Other than four seasons in one day, that's probably. Crowded House rockier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Turnip Farm from Dinosaur Junior. Um, that's probably, probably the best one. Oh, and Going, Going, Going by the Posies, which. Yeah. Like. The Posies were, they were often on those kind of compilation soundtracks. And that's what I like about this. Like if you, if you think about all of those songs, none of those are the hit songs of those artists. So it was like it, I mean, the movie itself is all about how do you have like Fred?

[00:54:57] I had to sell out kind of thing. And the soundtrack itself. Yeah. Like that. So, um, I have a, uh, honorable mention, which this knocked out. Um, and it has a similar element, but I would say it's the Reality Bites soundtrack 2000. I'll come back to that. Okay. My number one. So your number two. Nicely here, Julianna Hatfield, by the way. I love, I love that album. My sister as well. Remember that track? Mm. Off that album. Yeah. Beautiful. My number two. And I reckon you thought this would be my number one.

[00:55:27] My number two is Train Spotting. Ha ha ha. I did think that would be your number one. Yeah. So, um, massive soundtrack, that one. And, um, yeah, it's, uh, it's got some really good tracks on it. Um, I think some of my, um, my, actually my favorite off it, and this is Blur Sing, um, a track off their first album, Leisure. That was one of, Blur were doing a lot of kind of sort of quite left of center stuff around that early Blur.

[00:55:57] And Sing has got this droney kind of quality to it. I don't know if you remember the scene from the movie with the, with the baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. It's grim as hell. Yeah. It's grim as hell. But, you know, that song took on a bit of a new life, um, after Train Spotting. It was a really good pickup. Um, some great tracks from Elastica, um, Primal Scream, others, um, Pulp. Um. I'm so excited for what your number one is. Yeah. I don't know how this couldn't be. Yeah.

[00:56:25] Well, Train Spotting, you know, I felt obvious to me before I remembered an absolute must have at number one. Oh. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a life defining. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bigging this one up. You are selling that. But Train Spotting, I mean, so iconic. Yeah. So iconic. Yeah. So my honourable mention before I get to number one, I'm very confident it won't be on your list, so I don't have any problems putting it in.

[00:56:49] Um, and I think kind of a version into, uh, 2000 version of like, um, really by some of the state is Garden State. Hmm. So this is the album slash, sorry, movie that got me into the shins. I hadn't heard much of the shins beforehand and I think there's a scene in the movie where Natalie Portman goes, you know, this, you gotta listen to this band and change your life or something like that. And it was shins new slang, which off their first album and, um, it wasn't wrong.

[00:57:19] Um, it's a great, great song. Um, caring is creepy is the other one from the same album that's on the soundtrack. It just didn't tip reality bites because I feel like reality bites has a lot more to it. Hmm. Um, but I like that movie. Um, and I like the soundtrack and, but I already had a mid 2000s with Dan in real life. So I felt like, yeah, kind of had covered that ground. So that's why it's an honorable mention. I think you're right.

[00:57:43] I think you're, I think reality bites sort of, it's one of those genre defining movies and soundtracks that it feels really nostalgic actually when you even see clips of it. And I think it really drew a lot of alternative music into the mainstream at that time, or maybe it was because of that. Who would know? So that was your number two. No, no, that was my honorable mention. Okay. So my number one. Yeah. You go number one. This is my number one. Cause I've picked up my number one. Yeah. I think I know what it is. You think you know what my number one is? Yeah. All right.

[00:58:13] Why don't you guess it? Can I, can I, yeah. Singles. Singles. Yeah. You know that. Don't know it. Hang on. Is it singles? What's that sort of grungy one? Um. Oh, I don't know. With, um, like Pearl Jam. Oh, no. No, it's not that. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Okay. No. You've missed, you've missed. I've missed the mark. Massively. This is the least grunge thing you'll ever hear. It's actually About a Boy by Badly Drawn Boy.

[00:58:43] Bloody hell. I've forgotten about that. I got about four versions of that, that soundtrack. It is. Like, talk about a pairing of music and movie together. Jesus. So, all the songs by Badly Drawn Boy. I'm embarrassed for myself. But, um, if you haven't listened to it before, something to talk about. Um, uh, Silent Sigh.

[00:59:11] Um, I mean, really everything is, but my favorite is A Minor Incident. Um. So sad. So sad, but like. Dylan-esque. Yeah. Um, but the rest of it is great. Um, and the, the, um. Um, the scoring kind of that he does with it is so good. Um. So yeah, that's my number one About a Boy. Jeez. I was about to use a worse word than you used in the QA chat there.

[00:59:38] Because that, trust me, I'm a massive Badly Born, Badly Drawn Boy fan. I've got everything of his. And I was thinking High Fidelity, um, is one of mine. So Nick Hornby is the, uh, the link there. He wrote that. Um. Um. That's a really good. That is, I'm very impressed. I feel like I've won. That you've won. That's really impressive. You've brought up your number one so much. Now this is going to be the best. Come on. No, look, it is actually About a Boy.

[01:00:08] I've just changed it. Oh, I can't believe About a Boy. I need to, I need to be in a life less ordinary. But anyway, um, I'll, I'll cop that one. That's a great shout About a Boy. Let's do Badly Drawn Boy because I've, I've got some amusing anecdotes with that, uh, Damon Goff, uh, man.

[01:00:28] Um, my number one, a little bit of a preamble takes me back to, you know, that kind of, I don't know, eight, ten year old type, type, um, age. And John Hughes, the director. Uh, John Hughes had a way of, I think, making a lot of teenagers not realize they were listening to the Psychedelic Furs. The Smiths, um, Echo and the Bunnymen.

[01:00:57] Great soundtracks. So shout out to ones like Pretty in Pink, Weird Science, Sixteen Candles. But my number one is Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Oh, interesting. Yeah, some, um, just the whole vibe of the thing. Obviously, uh, an amazing, uh, film. Yeah. And, um. I've got to look it up. It would be in my top three films, uh, together with Trainspotting.

[01:01:19] Um, but I became a fan of The Smiths, I think, through that, through that song without realizing I was a fan, through that movie without realizing I was a fan of The Smiths. There's a, there's a version by the Dream Academy of the, of Please, Please, Please. They're in the, um, they're in the, uh, um, in the museum looking at paintings. Oh, yeah. I love that. Um, it's got things like that, uh, Yellow, um, Oh Yeah. Um, just some other great tracks.

[01:01:49] Um, but for me it was just a, sort of that, you know, very, very highly successful commercial film. But again, in the John Hughes way, just sneaking in some absolute cultural sort of flags. I'm just looking at it now. It's a cracking call. Oh, yeah. It's a, it's a really, really, it's a, it's a fantastic album. And I love that museum scene as well. Like.

[01:02:14] The Dream Academy version is, it's very, it's expansive and a bit dreamy actually. Um, it sort of draws out that song's beautiful melody. It's an amazing song though. Yeah. Yeah. I have to listen to that again. And, and, you know, even for the iconic twist and shout, you know, with, with, with, uh, with Ferris, um, at the carnival there having the greatest day off ever. Yeah. So Ferris Bueller, but I'm still, I'm still smarting about, about a boy. Oh, that's okay.

[01:02:44] That's okay. Uh, we all, we all, we all wish we could. We all miss one occasionally. Don't we? Yeah. It's a good show. Um, fantastic. All right. Well, that wraps up our top five. And given, uh, no doubt we are well past our, uh, scheduled time. Um, one thing we'll hold over for next time. We're going to do a homework record hub homework. So my homework for you and what we'll do with this is we each allocate, um, uh, a record that we know the other person hasn't, maybe they've listened to it, but they haven't gotten

[01:03:14] into it, or maybe it's someone that we're trying to convert them on. So future, obviously iterations you'll be listening to the entire case battle, uh, back, back up. But this time my homework to you is smashing pumpkins, melancholy, infinite sadness. Oh. This came because we talked about, uh, especially pumpkins a lot. And I, and it was the one album you sort of hadn't really grappled with. Yeah. I need the singles. And it's a monstrosity. Uh, it's a double album. It's a lot, but there is some absolute gold there.

[01:03:40] I do think you could condense it to a single album and it would have been, it, it would have been amazing, but I actually like it in its breadth. And that's kind of my homework for you is to think, is it bloated? Is it loaded? Is it thematic? Is it conceptual? Is it good? Or did Billy Corgan go too far? Okay. What's my homework? I'm looking forward to it. Be good. I'll put aside a few hours. What's my homework? Your homework.

[01:04:09] Um, look, I haven't really mentioned them much today, but, um, the wonder stuff, never loved Elvis, their third album where they branched out into a much more sort of folky, um, type sound. They started as a, as a pretty, you know, kind of, um, jangly guitar, uh, indie band. Um, but never loved Elvis saw them go out and all sorts of folky directions. I think you'll like it. Yeah.

[01:04:36] So it's definitely got a, you know, some of your touch points, Decemberus, et cetera. So yeah. Never loved Elvis by the wonder stuff. Well, I love the title. Um, so I'm looking forward to that and I feel like I'm going to have to listen to you talk about them all the time. Then I probably should start listening to it. Yeah. Um, awesome. Awesome. Okay. Well, look, um, this concludes our, um, wonderful, uh, third episode, second episode, third episode. Including the teaser. Yeah. He's counting.

[01:05:05] Um, but as always, um, give us some feedback. Let us know what you think. If you've got a band that you want us to deep dive in on, let us know. If you want to come join us, um, always welcome that as well. Um, any ideas for fun segments, we're always open for that too. So, um, join the chat, um, hit up our website and, um, yeah. Thanks so much, Matt. That's fine. Thanks, Ash. All right. See you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye.