Episode 4 - Ultimate Live Experiences

[00:00:26] Welcome to another episode of the Middle Aged Dad Record Club. I'm Ash. I'm Matthew. And we are coming to you live from Ngunnawal Land. It's a beautiful spring day and we're ready to go. We're good to go. Yeah. So what are we talking about today? Today's all about live experiences, live albums, live shows, the ones we got to, the ones we wish we were at, any regrets. Lots of regrets. Lots of regrets.

[00:00:52] And then a top five on live albums, which is going to be interesting. It's been a topical one. Yeah. Because we've had that discussion many times about live albums. I remember at Record Store Day last year, we were like, oh, do you get this? Is it just a bootleg wrapped up or is this a real deal? So we'll cover that off for sure. Yeah, that'll be good. Awesome. Well, before we get into all of that, we'll do our usual record club segments.

[00:01:19] Um, but I guess first we've got to respond to the fan mail. Oh my gosh. I think there's probably about, I'm just opening up the mailbag now. Oh, oh my God. There must be seven or 800 different pieces of correspondence here. So some multiple correspondences from the hundred listeners. From the tens of listeners. They're very, very prolific.

[00:01:44] Um, but they all seem to be about the same thing. How terrible that question time segment was. Um, yeah. What did they say? There's, well, there's one here. It's only two, it's only a two word review. It just says, Shit sandwich. You can't say that. Yeah. Can you say that? Nah, you can't say that. No, but I guess they are. So viewers, we've heard you, and we also agree that both from a conceptual and execution point of view, uh,

[00:02:14] question time is dead buried and cremated. Well, look, I, I often say to you, Ash, as long as we're enjoying it, that's all that matters. But I think we learned to lesson about what we enjoy, what others don't. We flew too close to the sun, Matthew. Is there any other, any other mail that's come through for you? Well, I think I've opened up a, a little bit of a portal. Um, our man on the ground in Ireland, Seamus back in contact.

[00:02:43] He's flagging that if I've got any, uh, personal stories to tell, and he, and he quoted the bar in Bangkok. He wants, he wants that to go through the lawyers. The other thing, the other thing Seamus wanted to pick up, and I think he's sort of taking legal sort of coverage for our whole podcast. Apparently contractually you have to give at least 25% of love for Ringo in a Beatles episode. And, um, I clocked in at 12%.

[00:03:13] Yeah. You clocked in at three. Yeah. So Seamus is onto that. The good news for, for, for Seamus, I guess is, um, I have been doing quite a lot of deep listening to Ringo's solo albums. Great. In fact, quite a lot. Yeah. And I mean, very deep. Really? Oh mate. It is in preparation for our pre, uh, post peppers episode. Um, I even got, um, a couple of my mates, uh, well into Ringo and it was the theme of our recent, uh, weekend in Melbourne. Nice.

[00:03:42] There was a lot of listening to Ringo's, particularly his first solo album, which I'm not. Okay. Bit of a spoiler, but when we do our top five battle, uh, for, um, post Beatles solo careers, he's going to feature. Okay. Well, this is good news for two people. Yeah. One Ringo, obviously he'll be chuffed, but Seamus as well. Yeah. This is good. Put, put, put the, put the pens down, get the lawyers back. Like it. Like it. But, um, quite genuinely we do love feedback.

[00:04:11] So you can always, um, message us on Instagram or you could leave a comment on Facebook or you could just, um, send us, uh, many of the, like people have already sent us mail. Um, yeah. Like a huge mailbag right here that I'm definitely opening up. Yep. And ruffling through. Um, all right. Enough sillies. Um, so let's get into it. So what is spinning on your decks at the moment, Matthew? It's been a good week for me. Um, lots of travel actually over the last. A couple of weeks.

[00:04:39] So, um, always a good opportunity to get stuck into a bit of music. Um, but last thing I actually did in this very room and it's podcast HQ that we're, we're, uh, beaming in from, uh, my wife and I watched, um, what do you do for an encore? Which is a pulp documentary focusing on their last world tour and they're kind of 30, 40 years in the business. Brilliant. It was very, very good. Really loved it.

[00:05:07] Uh, the other thing I did on Thursday, um, was, uh, was down the front, um, at Horton Pavilion with my daughter seeing her number one, uh, which is Louis Tomlinson. Oh. He's really good. He's a cool dude, Louis. And it was a great live show. I'll show you some pictures later. It was really good.

[00:05:28] And, uh, of course my daughter and the other 6,000 mostly young female audience, uh, absolutely loved it. If you could bottle that enthusiasm, the world would be a good place. But in terms of, um, sort of substantive stuff, um, which links into a little bit of the, the homework, um, really excited to hear your take on teenage fan club Grand Prix. They actually released a new album this week. Oh. Do not dare to dream.

[00:05:59] Um, and, uh, I've been listening to that solidly all week. Uh, got the vinyl, the rough trade limited edition. Um. Of course you did. Sort of Marigold-y color. Beautiful. Merge records, um, in the, in the, in, in America and rough trade, uh, in the UK. Okay. It's, it's just a great record. Um, it's interesting. Um, you know, they've, they've kind of mellowed in their, in their, in their further years. And this is, this is very melodic.

[00:06:28] Um, it's, um, there's a couple of great tracks just to shout out. There was you, A Day in the Sun. Teenage fan club just do what they do. Um, I see some fans sort of, you know, harking back to the old days, but teenage fan club are a band that I've grown up with. And I appreciate that evolution. You know, they're cardigan wearing dads now. Middle-aged dads, dare I say. And it's, uh, it's a beautiful record. Okay.

[00:06:55] Um, so that's what's really been, uh, spinning, uh, on my AirPods this week. Cool. How about you? Well, um, kind of like you, I won't start with, um, the music part, although it's very, uh, music focused. But mine's, uh, not so much a spinning, but, uh, a, uh, flipping as in reading. Um, so I just finished, um, Kelly Dawn Helmrich's, uh, new book. It's not for you. So she's the bass player for Camp Cope. Right.

[00:07:25] And it's an amazing book. It's, um, so it's, it's kind of semi-autobiographical, like a memoir kind of thing, uh, about, uh, her experience in the band, about her life. But each chapter is a different female musician. And they talk about what life is like in the industry, what it's like for, um, female musicians. Um, and she gets some incredible people in like Marsha Hines, Courtney Barnett, like, you know, like there's just tons of people.

[00:07:55] Um, and it's really, I mean, I found it, she writes so beautifully. There's one chapter where she's writing the one that got me the most. She was writing about, um, when she was in New York and, um, she had, had, you know, this sort of, I don't know, like a realization that a relationship was ending. And I can't even express, it was just like the way she wrote it.

[00:08:23] I think I read it like, yeah, like a bunch of times going back. Um, just how she eloquently like described the city and that feeling of like knowing a relationship's lost. And this is the city where things are lost. Anyway, it's beautiful. Anyway. And the other thing is it was really powerful because it was talking about Camp Cope's journey. And I'm sure we'll talk about them in our Oz Music Month podcast, but talking about their journey.

[00:08:47] Journey in, you know, the music they released, but then pretty much when they were kind of put front and center as the, you know, the poster, poster girls of, um, kind of movement to say why the festivals not putting any women on. And then how that was defining them and, and, um, but you know, they're artists. They just wanted to make music. Anyway, fantastic book. Definitely read it. Lots of funny stories as well about kind of life on the road, which I always enjoy those books. Yeah.

[00:09:15] Um, and, um, yeah, like I said, just a beautiful writer. I like to read audio book or. Yeah. So there's the audio book, um, um, on audible, which is always a good thing to, after you're listening to our podcast, of course. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so that's, that, that was been really good.

[00:09:32] And then in terms of, uh, on the music side, obviously apart from the amount of Ringo Starr that I have been listening to, um, and can I just give a quick shout out to, um, again, his first solo album, but then, um, the one that is most problematic. And I need you to, uh, actually go and have a look at the album cover. There's his 1981 release. Stop and smell the roses.

[00:10:01] Now I want you to look at the face, look at the album cover, and then I want you to acknowledge, and I want Seamus to acknowledge the work that I have done to really understand and appreciate Ringo Starr. Um, the man behind the drum kit. Yeah. Uh, number one pick private property. Um, an incredibly difficult song to listen to, given that it's all about how he's talking about his female companion is his private property.

[00:10:31] Uh, and you can probably part that parcel that with you belong to me. Not in a good way. It does look like a watch out for this man. If you see him on the street type vibes. Oh no. No, we love you Ringo. Please don't sue us. Please don't sue us. Please don't sue us, Seamus. Um, but yeah, but honestly that first album, so such a banger, but I don't know why I'm spending all my time talking about Ringo.

[00:10:56] Cause I guess the other thing, um, I finally got, uh, my hands on that new, uh, Domi and JD Beck album, which I'd been chasing. Um, you know what? It's fine, but it's a bit more samey than I was hoping. It didn't explore different collabs and it, it kind of sounded almost like the one track all the way through. So I actually think not tight is my preferred album of theirs. Um, but look, it was good. I, if you like, if you like them, then it would be good.

[00:11:25] Um, but otherwise it didn't really grab me. Didn't grab you. Um, so, but, um, I did pick up when I was in Melbourne, um, a copy of Rob Zombie's Hellbilly Deluxe audio file edition. Yeah. Oh, and I've been thrashing that since then. Did you get round many record stores? Yeah. Heaps of them. Hey, we went up and down Smith street. Yeah. Um, so Brunswick East and Collingwood and all those good places. Jeez, there's some great record shops down there.

[00:11:52] My personal, one of the best for me is Heartland Records. Oh yeah. I don't know if you know that one. Up in North Melbourne. It used to be on Peel street, uh, just by the Queen Vic markets. Heartland's where I head to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Melbourne's great record store. Yeah. So there was great ones like Licorice Pie, um, went to Happy Belly of course. Happy Belly's great. Um, it was a really good one. Strange World, um, was good. Um, yeah. Anyway, there was so many. Um, I really enjoyed it.

[00:12:20] Um, but I did not find any, um, Ringo Starr solo albums. Um, and that's, that was generally the only reason I was down there. They're rare. Very rare. People hang on. Hang on. Especially, um, Smell the Roses. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's a classic, classic. Uh, so yeah, that's what's been spinning and flipping for me. Okay. So coming up for me, um, band who have just recently reformed, um, but we're pretty active

[00:12:45] from about 92 through to 95, uh, band called Sugar, uh, Bob Mould, uh, of Husker Do fame. Uh, Sugar released Copper Blue in 92. It's up there in my top 20 albums. Yeah. Really critically revered. Not that well known really, but I love it. I don't know. I've got a couple of, a couple of good box set vinyls of them.

[00:13:10] Anyway, they're sort of dropping songs, um, every couple of months cause they have reformed. They're in their seventies. Um, there, you would love them. Yeah. Dinosaur Junior, Smashing Pumpkins, Teenage Fan Club, very melodic. Um, okay. And, uh, yeah, so I'm manifesting a new album from those guys and, um, I'm hoping for an Australian tour as well. Um, they were big in the UK. They're actually on creation records. Okay.

[00:13:39] So with all the Oasis type stuff, um, so pretty cool band. Um, but that's, uh, that's what I've got coming up is, is really manifesting some new tunes. Um, there's one just dropped, uh, keep looping at the moment actually, which is a real sort of melodic power pop number. Okay. Um, so yeah, manifesting a new album. I'd have to borrow those vinyls today. Yeah. That'd be interesting. You'd love them. Yeah. You would love them. Um, so for me, uh, two things.

[00:14:05] One, gosh, there's a number of really awesome concerts coming up next year and they all seem to be dropping in March. And I'm just like, I don't know what to do. Two of it's coming up, which is just announced, which I think is going to sell out very quickly is Angine de Pratrin. Uh, butchered that. Please don't, um, please don't make fun of my French accent. Um, so this is those, uh, that duo that, uh, you know, people would know from like the polka dots and they have all that micro tonal math rock.

[00:14:35] Yeah. Right. Um, very unique. Um, I think if you're a King Gizzard fan, you'd know of them. Um, cause they sort of do micro tonal. And in fact, there was a lot of rumors that they were actually, cause they dress up, um, in costumes that it was actually the King Gizzard guys. Right. And then I read this thing where it was like, they, they debunked that by showing that they were playing King Gizzard and Angine de Pratrin were playing in two different parts of the world on one day. Like that's the kind of level of intrigue. It's like Daft Punk kind of thing.

[00:15:04] Um, where it was like, who are these people? I like the mystery, but you've got to see them. So they did a kiss as well. Right. Hey, Hey, we've got a lot to cover on kiss later on. So you just, you just be quiet about that. Um, but they had a really famous, I think it was XCCP. Um, anyway, they did this really famous performance and it's on YouTube. Um, Oh, I think my neighbor, um, who I play golf with as all middle-aged dads should, um,

[00:15:34] he sent me that link. Are they sort of in chains? Um, um, no, polka dots, that polka dots will get you there. I'll show you after it, after this. Um, but yeah, if you are interested, the most accessible songs, which is a really stretch, big stretch is Fabian K. Okay. F A B I E N K. Uh, so have a listen to that. Watch it on YouTube though. Cause it's a whole experience. Musically. They are phenomenal. Yeah. So I'm really excited, but I don't think I know anyone that likes them. So I'm trying to get people.

[00:16:04] Get them out. Did you, did you mention it's on that K E X C P? K E X C P. Yeah. That is at a radio station. It must be. It must be. Yeah. Cause they have some fantastic things. It's like tiny desk concerts. Yeah. Yeah. They're really good. Yeah. We did that on the, on the, on the Melbourne weekend with, um, tiny desk concerts, including, Oh my God. We saw sting and shaggy. Yeah.

[00:16:33] Shaggy is in, uh, it wasn't me and sting is in the police. Yeah. They're a duo. And then I was like, Oh, is this like some unique kind of like make a wish thing? Yeah. Is this Shaggy's make a wish? Yeah, that's right. Um, and then I looked at shaggy and he's wearing a shirt. It's a band shirt with sting and shaggy. So this was like a real thing. And I was like, Oh my God. And I was saying to my mates, I was like, I have to hear the mashup they do of like every breath you take and it wasn't me. Yeah. Which has sting love.

[00:17:00] We don't talk about Puffy or P Diddy or whatever his name was. Right. But that mashup, that was, um, that was very successful. Yeah. Yeah. Huge. Anyway, it was, uh, it was another one of these YouTube deep dives. I think we'd all had a lot of beers and, um, had done, um, we actually did a really interesting exercise that my mate Zane came up with, which was to rank every pre every Danzig era misfits song into tears of S A B C D. And so we all did our initial ratings.

[00:17:30] It was, yeah, it was like such a nerd thing. It was so much fun because we got to listen to all these misfits. Yeah. And then we got progressively drunker as an art going on. So a little bit of, uh, off, off, uh, off the record, um, uh, middle-aged dad record club, um, sort of vibe too. So it was good fun. Anyway. Um, the other thing that's coming up, which I think you'll appreciate is in November, the flaming lips, uh, celebrating the anniversary of at war with the mystics. Right.

[00:17:57] And doing a re an anniversary release of that album. Are they? That's the one after you. It's the one after you. Yeah. I think it is super underrated. I agree. Yeah. I agree. And the artwork on the front of that a little while ago, I was looking, trying to find, um, the artist because I actually love that artwork. Like I wanted to buy like a print of it cause it's so beautiful. Even like a print with like the, the record. I couldn't find it. Yeah. No one.

[00:18:23] It's just such a, like, it's got a texture to it, but that album is, um, yeah, really underrated, really underrated. Um, but they don't seem to play a lot from it. They don't. They don't. And I don't think it will get the kind of live treatment that Yashimi. No. Yashimi was huge. Yeah. And Soft Bulletin. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, that's right. But that's a, cause I think Soft Bulletin and, uh, is another one that doesn't get, um, you know, the respect on its name. Yeah. Uh, it deserves. Yeah.

[00:18:53] But Flaming Lips, I mean, an obscure band in many ways, but, um, I think for those that, that love them, um, speaking about live concerts, that's the one I went to last year when they did the Yashimi tour and they played the album in full. Yeah. Oh, it was amazing. Yeah. It was such an experience. Great album. Great album. Anyway, that's, uh, that's it for me in terms of, uh, what's coming up. Yeah. That's good stuff there. Maybe we'll take a little break and then we'll get, I think it's homework time. Homework time. Time to report into class.

[00:19:23] So we'll, uh, we'll pick that up in a second and we are back.

[00:19:55] All right. So homework time. Um, we'll keep this, uh, short and tight as we, uh, traditionally do on this podcast. Um, so, uh, I had a Grand Prix by 10-inch fan club and you had Crisis. What Crisis? By Supertramp. Do you want to kick off? Yeah. Nice one. Look, I'm going to throw to you quickly. Yep. Give me a quick 30 second Ash origin story on Supertramp. Uh, one of my dad's favorite bands. Yeah.

[00:20:22] Um, so this, it was always on, um, but mostly Breakfast in America. Yeah. He, I, cause I, cause when I kind of stumbled across Crisis, What Crisis, I'd mentioned it to him and I was like, oh dad, you know, this is, you know, ironic. Now I like Supertramp. Yeah. He's like, oh great. And, um, I mentioned this album. He's like, oh, I don't really know that one. Yeah. Right. So he's more of a crime of the century. Yeah. And, um, uh, Breakfast in America, which is kind of the unique thing about this album

[00:20:50] because it's the one that sits in between the two big ones. Yeah. I, I did a bit of a deep dive. Yeah. No, interested to hear that. And cause you know, Supertramp, um, you know, in that sort of British seventies, um, and thinking of bands like Teenage Fan Club and that nineties lot, you know, Supertramp really aren't a reference point. They don't come up a lot, but as I listened to the album, I could hear bits and pieces and whilst they share half a name, uh, the band that immediately came to mind for me

[00:21:20] was Supergrass. Oh yeah. Right. Sort of got that sort of slight proggy, uh, kind of tinge. Uh, but you know, Supergrass are great. I love Supergrass. So we'll definitely need to get to them, but yeah, no. Um, so onto the album, um, I thought it was a really strong start. I think those first, um, uh, three tracks in particular, uh, really good. And I do like the easy does it, uh, you know, the kind of, uh, walking along, having a whistle,

[00:21:50] uh, really like that and, um, listened to the album through quite a few times and yeah, I feel like it's quite front end loaded. Those first handful of tracks are really good. Um, definitely got a, I don't know if you agree, but, um, definitely got a Lennon solo vibe, um, sort of plastic ono band, um, kind of era. Um, and, um, yeah, definitely heard that sort of Lennon, uh, coming through.

[00:22:19] Like I said, um, first few tracks, uh, really grabbed me. Loved, uh, Sister Moonshine actually. Um, I can sort of see, you know, I kind of imagine them, um, on a big stage and, and eight or nine of them, um, you know, it felt like a big band, uh, lots going on. Um, sometimes a bit jazzy for me in terms of sax, some sax crimes going on there. Oh.

[00:22:49] You know, I do like a bit of brass, but sometimes free flowing, um, saxophone gets me. Um, but yeah, I, um, I liked it and sort of heard a bit of Queen in there at times as well. Yeah. Um, but definitely that Lennon, uh, solo and, um, were they fans of the Beatles? Were they, did they sort of see themselves in that lineage? They were kind of a band and it's actually funny because I think it's very similar to

[00:23:14] Teenage Fan Club in the sense that each of the musicians that wrote the songs carried very different interests, styles. And so it was always, so it's Rick Davies is the piano player and, um, and, and then Roger is the kind of guitarist. And so he's a lot more of that kind of ethereal and he's the one with the high voice and, and, you know, he's more of the proggy, proggy kind of part, whereas Rick Davies is more like

[00:23:42] a blues, like his songs are gritty and pick that up. Yeah. So it is a nice blending and it's, it's, it's the thing that actually, it made it the band powerful, but ultimately it's the thing that broke them up. Yeah. Yep. Oh, looking, you can, the musicianship, um, excellent players back in a time where, um, you know, you had to be a good player. Right. And I can imagine some of their live shows were epic. Yeah. But yeah, no, I, I really liked it. What was your favorite song? Oh, definitely. Um, sister moonshine or ain't nobody but me.

[00:24:12] I actually thought, um, it kind of trailed off a little bit for me towards the end. I did like two of us actually. Um, the ending one wasn't sure about poor boy. Yeah. Bit of mouth trumpet going on there. What's that? What's that? What, why, why? Yeah. Had they, they even knew. It was the seventies. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Too much brass. They just went to the mouth trumpet. No, I, I really liked it. What did you think of Just a Normal Day? Just a Normal Day.

[00:24:42] Remind me how that one goes. Um, it's the really sad, depressing one with that, um, this swelling strings and the sax solo that goes over the top and then crashes like a wave into the strings. Yeah. Uh, that's after poor boy, right? Um, I think I was looking forward to anything after poor boy. Nah, it was good. It was good. Um, I felt, I felt that was kind of, um, maybe that song as well, but an underlying sort of

[00:25:11] melancholy, uh, through some of it as well. Yeah. That gave me that sort of, that sort of yearning kind of Lennon style and vocal, um, sort of not tortured, um, but, but melancholy. Um, I did, I did like it and I listened to, cause I remember you saying that this was a funny old album sort of in the middle and I listened to a couple of albums either side. I really liked this one. I think it's got depth to it. Yeah.

[00:25:41] Um, and I can see why it's a, a sort of fan favorite. Yes, it is definitely. Yeah. And it's a deep cut. So just a normal days, both my favorite super tramp song of all time. Um, it's actually probably on my Mount Rushmore favorite songs of all time. Really? Okay. And it's got a personal link to it though. Cause when I moved down to Canberra, I just, I didn't know anyone. I'd moved down in, um, like Queens birthday weekend. So it was frigging freezing. Yeah.

[00:26:10] Um, and as a Queensland boy, uh, I didn't even know that things could get that cold. Um, and I just left, uh, I was living with my, with my mate and we were like, I loved living with him. And so it was like really sad to kind of leave all that behind. Yeah. And it was that gloomy Canberra winter. Yeah. And I think I played that song on repeat. A real sad vibe. Yeah. Um, but then spring came and I had a little bird that would be on my window and it would

[00:26:38] tap on the window and then things warmed up and I made new friends and life, life got better. And you put on sister moonshine instead. No, I think I changed the album at that point. Yeah. Um, but I'll always, every time I listen to it. And so the thing on that one that I will die on a hill for is that string swelling and how the tenor sax comes in and out. It weaves through. And then, like I said, it sort of just crashes like a wave into the thing. Okay. And it's like a wave of sadness. Right.

[00:27:08] Yeah. I thought about that sax solo a lot. I'll give it a listen. I'm actually, um, by myself, uh, for a week in Sydney next week. So maybe, yeah, get on the, get on the depression vibe. Yeah. I like it. Cool. What would you, so what would you give it? Look, it was a, it was definitely a solid B to B plus for me. And, um, yeah, super tramp. I don't know why. It's an acquired taste. It hasn't, hasn't, there's never been a reason for it to jump out for me.

[00:27:36] Like, you know, it's, it's not necessarily been a, you know, a cool reference point for those mid nineties, um, UK bands, but I can see. Yeah. They're very uncool band. Yeah. I could see that. And, uh, but you know, like I said, super grass muse, um, some of those bands that go a bit proggy, um, you can definitely see the, uh, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are fans, but you know, it's all about kinks. I think, yeah, exactly.

[00:28:03] I think, I think it's that one of those bands that like other bands like, but, um, no one wants to admit to, like, it's a bit like that. Um, but yeah, so that album's great. Crime of the Century, which is their, other than Breakfast in America, their biggest is, is another one. There's a song in that one called Hide in Your Shell. Yeah. That's another, probably my second favorite super tramp. So, um, I have developed a little playlist for you off the back of that one.

[00:28:29] And it's themed on other, cause I was kind of hoping you'd really like Justin Norma Day, but that's okay. Um, and it's kind of themed on that. Yeah. Okay. As in like depressing kind of weird thing. And it includes a great track from, um, Roger's first solo album after he left super tramp, which is actually one of the best songs. So I'll share that with you. Maybe I'll put it on the webpage for listeners. Yeah. Um, but yeah. So thank you for that one. It was great. Yeah. I was, I'm interested.

[00:28:59] I was interested in that and to get your take, cause I kind of was expecting you not to like it. I liked it. Except for poor boy. Yeah. Poor boy. Poor boy. Dodge. So teenage fan club, 1995 Grand Prix. And you said, giving you this one rather than their breakout, um, album in more in the grunge time, which is, um, when I was going back and listening, that is the one that I had. The concept and, um, uh, bandwagon. Bandwagon-esque. So that's the one I knew of then. Yeah.

[00:29:28] I don't think I'd ever heard this album, but there's a couple of songs that sounded familiar. So this was a complete, uh, clean skin list. Clean skin list to me. I like it. Um, first, first main point. Um, there's no fiddle and there is no fiddle. I'm just, I can't express how much that's upset me. I went, I went no fiddle. I just, you know how much I love fiddles in music. You do. Um, no, I really liked it.

[00:29:58] So, um, I kind of got a weird, there was times when I honestly swear to God, it could have been an Ash track. Yeah. Yeah. And like. Tim Willis, a big teenage fan club fan. Oh, and the thing is like, and I did a bit of research trying to think, oh, you know, is that a common kind of thing? Right. And, and it didn't come up anywhere. There was no one that was sort of like, oh yeah, this sounds just like Ash. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Like there's some songs on it.

[00:30:27] Um, and, and, and I must say not early era Ash and not even mid era Ash, more like free all angels era Ash. Yeah. Um, but, uh, Sparky's dreams, which I think is the big single. Big single. I love that.

[00:31:10] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:42] I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. really that kind of jangly sort of vibe. Yeah. I actually hear a lot of Crosby, Stills and Young in them. And like, you can tell that Neil Young, obviously, because they've got a song kind of about that, but like in the guitar solos and not just kind of early 70s era Neil Young, but even when he went a bit grunge with Crazy Horse and stuff. So you could tell that was a big influence.

[00:32:08] But I also heard a lot of like The Birds and like that kind of early 60s. Also not early 60s, like mid to late 60s, you know, Britpop kind of thing. So, yeah, I really loved it. You're hearing the good reference points there because, yeah, they've done great cover versions actually of Mr. Tambourine Man. Oh, I have to check that.

[00:32:34] And they're an interesting teenage fan club, Glaswegian, but a lot of American influences. Yeah, you can definitely hear that. And, you know, that even goes to their earlier days, which still seeps through here. But, you know, big fans of like Dinosaur Junior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know. And they recorded this one on the West Coast I was reading as well. So it's definitely got a transatlantic vibe. Yes. Album covers a bit like someone got onto the word art,

[00:33:03] but I don't love that. Yeah. And I don't get the Grand Prix kind of reference, but. It's always a bit odd to me because, you know, if you ever came across these four guys, you wouldn't think they were motor car racing officials. Ah, is that where it's from? I'm not exactly sure why Grand Prix. The other interesting thing I would say is that for teenage fan club fans,

[00:33:30] one thing that's sort of quite Beatles-esque about them is they, four people generally in the band, the drummers have rotated a bit. But Norman Blake, Jerry Love, who's now sadly left the band, and Raymond McKinley are the three songwriters. So they actually split the albums equally. So teenage fan club fans talk a lot about whether you're a Norman, a Jerry or a Raymond in terms of what you like.

[00:33:59] Which is similar to Supertramp, right? Yeah, very similar. With the Rick Davies and the Rogers stuff. Yeah, and very, you know, Lennon McCartney. Ah, yeah, true. Ringo. Let's go back to that again. And Ringo, of course. Don't forget the drummers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listening to your favourite songs there, I think you are probably a Jerry. Yeah, okay. A Jerry guy. Yeah. With a bit of Norman. Oh. Yeah. Is that like a Taurus entering Saturn or something? Yeah, yeah. Which I agree with. We love Raymond. Yeah.

[00:34:27] But sometimes his songs, and Versimilitude is one of them, can be a little bit more difficult to get into. Ah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, well that's good to diagnose my teenage fan club sub-genre. You're, yeah, yeah. You're 60% Jerry and 40% Norman. Oh, wow. By my diagnosis. Ancestry.com. Ancestry.com. Yeah. My new dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what would you grade it? What would you? So this one, I liked much better than the Wonder stuff. Yeah, controversial.

[00:34:56] Not to kind of stink the knife back in again. No, no. But I like a lot more. I think I gave that a B out of respect to you. Because I didn't want to give it lower and potentially upset our wonderful harmony. That's right. Um, so it doesn't, so I'm kind of on our homework task, I'm kind of conceptualizing an A is, oh my God. Yeah. I've never heard this album, but this is now I'm going to go out and buy it. Now I've added tracks. Yes.

[00:35:25] I definitely want to go back and listen to some more of them. Um, so it's a B plus, like a solid B plus, but I'm keeping A for like when I come across one where I'm like, yeah, where has this been all my life? I agree. I agree. Or like, uh, I haven't listened to this in a long time and now I'm kind of understanding it in a different way. So I can't, I'd almost give it an A minus. Um, but the, the fact that it's a very long album and the back half really kind of dropped a bit, dropped a bit.

[00:35:53] Um, yeah, it's, it's, it's look, it's right in my wheelhouse. It's ash. It's like, it's that jangly, like the birds thing. It's a bit of Neil Young. It's Tom Petty. I hear a lot of Tom Petty in it. Yeah. Um, I really like it. Like, yeah. And they're, they're a great bunch of guys, teenage fan club as well. I've been lucky enough to see them a number of times. Oh, cool. Um, but if they tour, I'd, I'd, I'd go see them. Oh yeah. So they might tour this new album. Hopefully. Sadly, they don't have Jerry, uh, now and out of respect to Jerry, they don't play his songs.

[00:36:23] So the Jerry set list goes. But I'm 60% Jerry though. But last time, just a quick, quick teenage fan club. Um, um, curio is, uh, I was stood a song, uh, a little guy you might know, who's a massive fan seeing them at the Metro theater about five, uh, people away. Albo. Wow. Our prime minister. Wow. Yeah. So he's a big fan. Yeah. He's got, he's a big fan of a lot of good music. He's a great music fan. Right.

[00:36:49] Do you know, um, just as a prime minister, um, I always remember thinking, okay, putting politics aside, Albo, teenage fan club fan, you know, all the, all the good stuff. Do you know who ScoMo's favorite artist was? Who? Have a guess. Tina Arena. Oh, I love Tina Arena. You don't do it? Yeah. Do you? She's a great singer. You don't like her? God, no. Oh God. She's got a fantastic voice. Well, I mean, you know, there's a lot, there's a lot of other. Oh my God. Yeah.

[00:37:18] Well, you're going to be really upset about my top five because it's literally only Tina Arena's live albums. Uh, I add them to my shrine of Tina Arena all the time. Are you being serious about Tina Arena? I do like her voice. Really? I think she's a great singer. Okay. I think she's like our, like one of our best, um, um, female singers. Okay. All right. Yeah. Hot take. Well, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it is controversial. Anyway, you, you were expecting me to light it up, weren't you? Oh, I've zigged you in your zag.

[00:37:47] Just, just for the record. Uh, I'm not coming to see Tina Arena with you anytime soon. Well, I'm a 60%, uh, 60%, whatever. But I'm a hundred percent Tina Arena. I like it. All right. We'll take a break and then we'll be getting back into our live album themes.

[00:38:08] And we are back. So this theme today is all about live music. Um, the, the concerts that we'd gone to, that we wish we'd gone to. So we've got, um, two key segments here. The first one is called gig regrets. And we're going to have two rounds.

[00:38:37] The first one is, this is about gigs that you didn't go to. And round one is too young. So this is essentially gigs before our time. What is go back and past? What's that one gig you would have always wanted to go to? An iconic gig, something personal, whatever. Um, and then the second round we'll come back and we'll do two slack. And that one is about, it's in your time. You could have gone, but you didn't. And now you've got the regrets.

[00:39:05] So we'll start with that. And then, um, we'll move into our next segment, which will be ticket stub, which is, um, what is our all time favorite concert and why that we've gone to? So kind of focusing a bit around the, the, you know, the ups and downs of live music and, you know, the, the gigs we've gone to, um, I'll kick off. So for round one, too young, ah, this one, which is, uh, something that I wish I had always seen. I love listening to it.

[00:39:36] Um, it's Neil Young when he was, um, Massey Hall in 1971. So this was his solo acoustic set that he did in Toronto and he was playing the harvest songs, um, off his album harvest before it came out. And, um, you can get on the harvest special box thing, which I don't own. Um, they have that lot, those live ones on it.

[00:40:03] Uh, so you can listen to this show, but I would love to have been there. It's just him, his acoustic guitar. Um, and he's got these little harmonicas that he pulls out of his pockets and, and there's so much banter and it's actually really just, um, endearing. But, so this was after he finished after the gold rush. And like I said, just before harvest came out, um, in that concert, the, his version of old

[00:40:31] man is probably, well, it's definitely my favorite of that. I like prefer that to the studio version, but it is so good. And it's amazing that he has so much sound from just him and an acoustic. Um, and then, uh, a couple of the other songs from harvest, like, uh, man needs a maid and, um, uh, harder goal that he played on the piano.

[00:40:55] Um, and, um, yeah, I just really, I would have loved to have been in that crowd. I reckon I would have definitely been in that early seventies kind of, um, I would have definitely been a big, uh, Crosby Stills, young, um, and Neil Young fan from that time. But yeah, so that's my pick. I mean, again, there's lots of gigs that I would have liked to have gone to.

[00:41:21] Um, I'm probably sure you would have been expecting Beatles after that, but I did think about Beatles, but then I thought my, my kind of favorite albums, like Rubber's Soul Revolver into the post-purpose areas. They didn't tour any of that. And would I want to go with hundreds of thousands of screaming people and not hearing anything? Not really. Yeah. And I've always seen Paul McCartney now twice. Um, and it was great and I loved it.

[00:41:48] And it's great hearing some of those Beatles songs played live, but you know. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, I went with that, like, and I think that's the key with this one. It's like not the most iconic show, but the one you wish you were at. Yeah. Yeah. So that's for mine. What's your two young? Yeah. No, look, good shout on the Beatles. They went through my mind as well. And, uh, yeah, I just don't know how good the live experience at Shea Stadium actually was, right? You see the footage and there are a million miles from the crowd. Everyone's screaming, you know?

[00:42:18] And that's why they, that's why they stopped touring. I would like to be at the rooftop concert, I reckon. Oh, actually. Oh, gosh. Oh, how did I miss that? That would have been my Beatles one if I was. Oh my God. Of course. On my lunch break, getting my meal. Oh, this is my about a boy moment, I think. Yeah. Oh my God. The rooftop concert, yeah. So that, that was one that I was. Was that your pick? No. Well, look, um, it could be. You just want to get it back on her back. Um, no, look, um, that would have been my Beatles moment.

[00:42:47] I was thinking through that, but look, I'll take it back a little bit more to my, you know, years talk about, you know, living in the cold, you know, my teenage years, uh, down in Hobart, going to high school there and, um, you know, from about 89 through to 93. Um, and, uh, just watching all that good stuff go by on the other side of the world.

[00:43:13] Um, reading the enemy religiously, which used to be three months late by the time it reached news agencies down in Hobart. So, you know, I could talk about a lot of things that were happening in the UK from that sort of 88 through to, through to 93 that I would have been, uh, would have loved to be at, but two things I'll, I'll, I'll pick out. Uh, your, your, uh, your, uh, uh, favorite band, the wonder stuff.

[00:43:37] Um, they played a stadium show in 1991 at Bescott stadium, also a football club. Um, it was a real kind of homecoming, uh, for them. And it sort of showed what a big band they had become at the time, 20,000, which is a big deal back in those days, you know, for an indie band. For sure. Um, and, uh, you'll be pleased to know it was pretty much the first time from a live perspective. They introduced the full-time fiddle player.

[00:44:04] So, you know, for us big fans of the fiddle, it was a moment. I do love that. But in terms of other iconic things, I wish I was at, um, more retrospectively Spike Island, uh, the Stone Roses show. Oh yeah. Okay. You know, the summer of love. Um, but that, that would have been right up there, but so many from those sort of nineties times, you know? Yeah. But you know, we live on this beautiful side of the world, right? That's right.

[00:44:32] There's a lot of, a lot of good things about being here, but sometimes getting to those kinds of concerts or those festivals. Yeah. Not so much. No, not so much. But you know, what I would say is that I've been lucky enough, uh, and I'll talk about a few of them later on actually to make up for lost time. Um, once I started, you know, earning more than $20 a week pocket money, I was able to get some shows, uh, somewhere else in the world. Yeah. The investment is strong. Yeah. Cool. All right.

[00:45:00] Well, the next round, uh, for gig regrets is to slack. So as I mentioned, this is the one that it's in the time, let's say from your teenage years, like post pocket money era, um, to, to now, and you could have gone, but you chose not to. And now your regrets. Um, so I'll go first. Yeah. Me. This one was easy, easy. Yeah. He hadn't toured.

[00:45:28] He hadn't toured Australia since 1987. He never toured again after this. And he's now, uh, passed, uh, RIP David Bowie, the reality tour 2004. I was in uni. I was already a huge Bowie fan. Um, hunky dory is my favorite album, but I really love most of the areas of Bowie. Um, I really liked heathen and I liked reality. Did you? Okay. Yeah.

[00:45:58] And I liked heathen more than reality. Yeah. Um, and when he, he didn't tour on heathen, which I wanted him to, he did tour on, um, reality. And I was like, uh, it just, you know, at uni, you just, you know, you know, you've got to be judicious. And I think I probably would have, you know, prioritized like a livid festival or a big day out or a splendor or something like that. Um, well, I didn't think splendor was around there, but like, I think I would have been like prioritizing something like that.

[00:46:27] But for whatever reason, I remember making an active decision that said, I'm just not going to go. I'll go to the next tour. And yeah, he never toured again. And the thing is before he died, um, he released two albums. One was The Next Day. Yes. Um, and I think that is one of his. Sublime. It's so good. Yeah. Um, and I was, I was then certain, I was like, good.

[00:46:56] I'm going to make amends for my previous errors. He is definitely going to tour off this because it actually was quite popular too. Yeah. He didn't tour. Yeah. And then the next album was Blackstar and it was very clear at that point that he was very sick. Very sick. And then, um, I think he passed away very shortly after that or around that time. And, and now I've never seen Dabba Bowie live and I have all of the regrets and I should have pulled the trigger. I looked at that set list again for the Brisbane entertainment center.

[00:47:26] Yeah. Um, which, you know, I don't like that venue, but gosh, I would see. I've got, so if I go back in time, um, I'd smack young Ash. I would smack him. Yeah. And I would say, mate. Yeah. He hasn't toured since 87. He might not come again. Don't buy that extra. Yeah. But he, you know, t-shirt whatever crap I was buying. He's wearing his second green day. Don't spoil it. This, this is my, this is my, this is my uniform. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:56] Anyway, it's a mad regrets. It's a good shout. It's made me sad actually. Yeah. I'm really sad about it. He's a great man and, uh, we'll definitely do a feature. Oh gosh. Yeah. Bowie's going to get the full treatment from the middle-aged dad record. Oh God. You know, so good. Yeah. What's yours? What's your two slap? Mine feel superficial and shallow compared to yours. Um, a couple of quick ones. Um, uh, my wife and I made the decision as you do, um, to take a one-way ticket to the UK,

[00:48:23] uh, in 98, um, you know, set up shop there and see some bands and do all that kind of stuff. And a really big favorite band of mine in my top three. So that, uh, a Liverpudlian band called the Boo Radleys. Um, and I'll mention them in later pods, no doubt. But they have always been a special band to me. They released their, what was to be their last album before they reformed in 97 called King Size.

[00:48:53] Beautiful album, brilliant album. They're on Creation Records as well. Anyway, got to the UK in 98. And, um, they're definitely going to tour. I'm going to see them a few times. This is great. Anyway, getting, getting settled. And they did a couple of shows, um, in and around some Virgin record stores. Oh, yeah. Um, acoustic things. And I couldn't kind of get to them because I was probably earning nothing and all of that kind of stuff. Hadn't set up really, but I'll definitely see them.

[00:49:20] Anyway, they split up and, uh, they have reformed in more recent years, but without their genius songwriter and lead guitarist, Martin Carr. So I've never seen them live. And I always think, hmm, I should have made the effort at the time to get up, even if these acoustic in stores. Mm-hmm. And, uh, it'll never happen for different reasons. So that's very, very sad. Uh, I have, um, stayed, um, in, uh, Martin Carr is still a big, um, I'm still a big fan of his.

[00:49:49] And, uh, actually hilariously, just a memory that sort of popped back in years ago, maybe 20 years ago, I was watching, uh, the Today Show, you know, the morning show, Steve Liebman days, I think like way back. And they played a song that remind, uh, like a theme song that reminded me of a Boo Radley song. And I, as a little music detective, got in contact with Martin Carr and told them, told him and told on them. And, uh, they ceased using it.

[00:50:18] So a bit of a shameless moment for me there. And Martin Carr was appreciative. I sent him a little clip. I recorded it off the TV and he's like, damn straight. That's a wake up Boo by the Boo Radley. I'm like, I know it is. They're using it. Did you give permission? You're such a nerd. What a little snitch. It was hilarious. So the Today Show, I shut down a little, a little ditty from the Today Show. You're an anarchist. Yeah.

[00:50:44] But actually my, um, um, my, my, uh, kind of, uh, regret, um, and, uh, this goes to actually, I have never seen the super furry animals. Oh, right. Okay. But I have at the same time. So shout out to, to Chris, uh, a good friend who still lives in the UK. Big fan of the pod, by the way. He sent me his, uh, he sent me, he sent me. Is he one of our tens of listeners? He is. And he, and he does a top 12, uh, each, each week he sends it through to me.

[00:51:14] Um, anyway, um, Chris and I, uh, went to a lot of shows together, um, and, um, super furry animals. They were taking a bit of a break between albums. And we heard that down at our local Brighton Concord live venue that they were going to do, uh, a one-off show. Ooh. And, uh, the show was to feature their, um, their album that they were releasing really under the table, a whole Welsh, uh, just an album in Welsh.

[00:51:43] They're, they're, uh, they're, you know, they're, they're, uh, they're from Wales. It's a challenging language too. A lot of consonants. Moang it was called, right? So anyway, we saw that advertised and we thought, oh, okay. Chris assured me that after the Moang run through, which it was billed at, they're not going to leave us there, right? They're going to do the greatest hits. This is going to be great. Anyway, we get there. So I think it was an 11 track album, Moang, all in Welsh, all in Welsh, you know, obviously.

[00:52:13] Was it good music? Well, musically it was okay, but Welsh is a funny old language to hear sung back at you as well. Oh yeah. So, um, yeah. I like the Welsh, um, like their folk songs. Oh yeah. Yeah. They're really nice. Where I think where it's like connects to. And it's a, it's a singy type. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, 50 minutes of it, you know, is kind of gets a lot tiring.

[00:52:36] Anyway, Griff, um, the lead singer came, came at the end and sort of, no star, no star, which is good night in Welsh. Oh, no encore. No encore. Wow. So the only time I've seen super furry animals is a run through of their very hard to come by, barely released all Welsh album. That kind of makes you like a super, super fan. Yeah, exactly. When you're talking to, oh, you're a fan, are you? Yeah.

[00:53:05] Did you, did you see their all Welsh album? So I love super furry animals, especially a couple of their early, um, albums. Yeah. So I've never seen them since. So it is a regret that, you know, I mean, I was lucky enough to be at this exclusive Welsh only, um, show. So it's kind of like a regret that you went, but I was at a Welsh only show. It is definitely in that wheelhouse of, of dual regrets. Yeah. Fantastic. Fantastic. That's right. All right.

[00:53:34] Well, our next segment is, uh, now turning from our release. I like that we started with the sadness first because now we can lift it back up. Yeah. It's ticket stub. That is, what is your favorite ticket stub that you have? So this is going through your all time favorite show that you've ever been to. Um, and a bit about the story, although we won't, we won't, uh, we will keep this very tight, you know, as we, as we, as we do.

[00:54:01] Um, and my one, and I'll kick off is Daft Punk alive at the river stage in Brisbane in 2007. You have spoken of this. I have spoken of this. It, uh, and so shout out to my mate, Todd, uh, who I went with. We were so excited for Daft Punk. We're both, he's a lot more into electronic music than I, I was, but I've always loved Daft

[00:54:28] Punk first single I ever bought was, um, around the world, uh, by Daft Punk, uh, like with my own money, you know, uh, um, before, but that was my first one that I went to the record store and like, I think it was five bucks. Yeah. And that was a lot at the time. And I was like, I'm going to get it. And then my, my mate danced around the room the whole day to around the world. Um, so I've always loved Daft Punk. Um, it was, they had the pyramid and it was on the river stage. So it's just, it's like this kind of natural bowl. Yeah.

[00:54:57] And, um, the best bit was that after party, which my mate managed to organize, it was at a nightclub called the family. Um, and, uh, justice, the band who very similar to Daft Punk, they DJed. And so it was the concert. And then it was the whole experience. Oh, like, like, oh gosh, we were so pretty drunk by the end of it.

[00:55:21] But, um, like the whole night was just an epic experience. Yeah. But in terms of the music and I have the alive 2007 vinyl. Yeah. Um, and it was, obviously that wasn't recorded, uh, from the Australian sessions. Yeah. Um, and you get a sense of it, but it was honestly visually, musically, the sound was amazing because it was open air as well. Um, and everyone was having a good time.

[00:55:51] Um, like that's the other thing, like it's kind of the atmosphere. Like I like mosh pits and I like angry and aggressive music and getting in there and stuff like that. I like chilled out ones where it's like a wave of people kind of swaying. Yep. But this one was just pure euphoria. I mean, I'm sure there's lots of people on lots of different things at the time, but, um, everyone was just having the best time. Yeah. And everyone was having so much fun and everyone was so thankful that they were here doing this.

[00:56:19] God, it was honestly, I mean, cause there's a few other candidates. So my wife surprised me and took me to Bruce Springsteen in Sydney and he did like, it was like a three hour show and he played everything. Yeah. Um, and I was like, you know, in the Simpsons, um, when they have, when the boys go on their road trip and Nelson Munson, I was like that. I was, I was standing up and I was like, oh, this is it. It's the boss. And he came close and I was like, oh my God. Yeah.

[00:56:48] And all I wanted to do was him to just pick me out of the crowd. Like he picked Courtney Cox out. Yeah. So I could do that swing dancing with my arms, but he didn't. Oh, but you know, in my mind he did. But yeah. So that Bruce Springsteen concert was probably up there. Yeah. And then, um, another honorable mention was as a festival lineup. Yeah. And I've talked to you about this before too, which was Liver 2000. Yeah. And that had Green Day. It had The Cure. It had Lou Reed. It had Daff. Uh, sorry. It had Danny Warhols. It had No Doubt. Yeah.

[00:57:16] And then a string of Australian bands and some really good punk bands as well. Um, uh, the lineup was actually insane. Yeah. Um, and, um, that was probably the best festival I've been to. Yeah. Um, but nothing compares to Daft Punk, River Stage, Pyramids, Robots. Sounds like a great night. One of those nights, right? One of those nights. That's what, that's what. What's your ticket stub? Yeah, look, I really, I'll pick up a few others.

[00:57:45] Actually, I've snuck in some other things within the live albums in terms of other experiences. But, um, but I've sort of gone for ones that, um, I've been lucky and blessed to go to a lot of great things. So I've kind of sort of thought about that more experienced side of things. And, um, when I suppose I wasn't sort of, you know, bought a ticket, you know, got the airfare or whatever, and sort of really arranged to be there.

[00:58:13] And I've been lucky enough to be at a couple of, a couple of things, um, mentioning Supergrass before actually. And another shout out to my friend, Chris, they were Brighton locals. Um, I actually lived in the street opposite Gaz Coons. Oh, wow. Cool. Yeah. So stories for another day, but you know, he, uh, he used to shop at our local Waitrose. Wow. We should do an Ash and Supergrass episode. And that way you can tell both stories. Yeah, just anecdotes about seeing them in the street.

[00:58:41] Followed him home from the pub one night, which is a bit weird, right? He was with friends. I was with friends. Oh yeah, sure. We thought. Were you in a trench coat at the time? We thought, um, you know, we actually thought at one time we could be friends, but you know, security said otherwise. Is this like Bruce Springsteen was definitely going to pull me out of the crowd or is this a real story? Did you think I, I went years thinking that was Courtney Cox's break that Bruce had just randomly chosen her. Oh, no. Yeah.

[00:59:10] But that was her big break when, uh, and then I think she was in that master of the universe movie. Yeah. And I think she was a, she was a model before. That's right. But honestly, like when dancing in the dark was big, I don't know, you know, I was like seven or eight or something. Right. You were a bit younger. I think I was born in eight. Well, I was born in 84. So I came out then. No one explained to me actually the, you know, that TV isn't real. And I just thought, Jesus, this girl's gone on to great things. Well done, Bruce. You picked well there. Yeah. Out of all the people. You picked Monica.

[00:59:39] Your job. Yeah. That's right. Anyway, sorry. Anyway, sorry. Um, so super grass comes to mind and I've got listed here. Um, they're a huge band 2000, they were headlining V festival, which was a great festival, Virgin music festival playing to 80,000, I think on the Saturday or Sunday night up in Chelmsford, we weren't going. Um, but because he was a Brighton local and this happened a few times, uh, in my time in Brighton, they just announced a warmup show the night before. Oh, cool.

[01:00:09] So 500 capacity down at Brighton Concord on the sea and, um, where I'd seen the Welsh run through probably some months previous of super furry animals, but super grass just came on stage and played their like 15, 16 song headlining set. Um, you know, to 500 people as a warmup, it was just glorious. You know, one of those nights as well. Another one that springs to mind is, um, saw the, saw the great man, Miles Hunt, lead

[01:00:39] singer of the wonder stuff, solo acoustic when we were in New York and he played at a little, um, a little club called the Fez, uh, which is in Greenwich village. Um, where, you know, some of the, the Rat Pack played back in the day, you know, proper, proper basement sort of cabaret cocktail bar type number. Eventually came on, uh, about two in the morning after my wife and I had drunk about 20 Budweiser's between us.

[01:01:08] Um, not sure how we were going to pay for them. You know, they just kept bringing out drinks and stuff. Anyway, he played till about four in the morning. Oh my gosh. And we settled our bar bill and then got a cab back through the, you know, the isolated, desolate streets of, uh, New York. It was just a, one of those nights where you're just like, man, but the one I've gone for actually my number one, and it goes to a band. I, I didn't think I'd see live, uh, ever. Um, but Stone Roses, Horton Pavilion, 2011. Yeah. Right.

[01:01:38] My God. You know, they could be a bit of Apache live band, even though when they were an ongoing thing, but that night was magic. Ian Brown was on form. I got pretty much right to the front, front stage, you know, to see John Squire and Ian Brown. Um, and I had moments at that concert where I just thought I didn't think I'd get to see this, you know, my mind is officially blown. It was a amazing concert. One that I'll always, uh, you know. It's just great when that kind of comes together, isn't it?

[01:02:07] Cause there's times when you're underwhelmed. Yeah. Um, and we talked about this, uh, before the pod, like Lemonheads is a perfect example, depending on what version of Evan Dando you get, it could be amazing or it could not be great. It, it sort of, it, it brings a bit of tension into the whole thing. But it also makes it a bit more special too. It does. You're right. Yeah. When, when it, when it sort of comes off spectacularly and yeah, that, that, that's something that always, you know, springs to mind for me. The Supergrass is a great call.

[01:02:34] I saw them in 2004 at the arena in Brisbane, um, uh, with my mate, um, Jesus. And, um, like we were both fans, but, um, we were on the balcony piece and they just had a most amazing set. Yeah. Uh, and I think they closed out with, um, Sun Hits the Sky and it was just exceptional, but it was like a long set. And then they came back and they played a Neil Young song. I remember. Oh yeah. I can't remember what it was.

[01:03:01] They're big, they're big sort of similar reference points to teenage fan clubs. Yeah. Yeah. That's because that's what triggered the memory. Um, just then, but yeah, they came back and did a really cool encore. I think. Yeah. Anyway, I remember that, but they're a great live band. They're a top band. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. All right. Well, there you go. Some memories, some, uh, some, uh, kind of cool bands. And I think it's kind of funny, isn't it? Like I just, there's a difference between live music and recorded music.

[01:03:28] I think you can sit down and you can appreciate it, but I think it's the environment that changes the context of the music. It's the magic. And some, some bands translate. Yeah. And others don't. Yeah. And I guess this is the bit we're going to get stuck into in our next segment, which is going to be a top five battle on live albums. Recorded live albums. Wow. And that's the thing. That you can listen to in the cold light of day. Yeah. Because it is euphoric. But do you still have the vibe? Yeah. And that's the key. It's euphoric at the time, right? Yeah. But how does live music stack up when you listen to it on your catch?

[01:03:58] Well, we're going to find out and we're going to get five of the best, which will be my five. Let's do it. Obviously. You've won. That's right. I've won already. Yeah. But we'll be back after this. Nice.

[01:04:32] And we're back. And I've just finished my second performance of Chains. It was more beautiful than the first time. I saw you cry. I saw you cry. I did. I love Tina Arena. Tina through her. You should hear my version of Private Dancer by Tina Turner. Jesus Christ. I sang that full volume in the car with my wife. Yeah. Brought her to tears. And not kind of happy tears, not surprise tears, but tears that only one can do when

[01:05:00] they're locked in a car and someone is full volume shout singing Private Dancer by Tina Turner. It's beautiful. It's why you're a catch. Yeah. That's right. All right. So our top five battle today is live albums. Well, we've talked about this quite a lot. The context for this matters, right? Because you could just pick any old bootleg of your favorite band. You're like, oh yeah, it's really good. But this is not about that. This is not about just what's a great live album of my favorite artists.

[01:05:28] This has to be the best live albums in the context of one. It has to be consistent with their discography. So for the artist itself, this has to be as important as any other kind of album for them. Yeah. All right. Number five. Okay. You go first. Me go. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to get this one out the way because as you know, I am obliged to mention the wonder stuff at least four times every episode.

[01:05:56] So two live albums, I'll just say from them, just arrived in the post actually, Groovers on Maneuvers, which is a document of their live shows last year that my daughter and I went to. So when I heard they were recording to celebrate pretty much the 40th anniversary of the band had to be there.

[01:06:23] So it's a record of sort of greatest hits live. Groovers on Maneuvers from Birmingham, Manchester and London. And Lucy, my daughter, and I were at the London and Birmingham shows watching it all being recorded. So we're on there somewhere. So that's a special one. Oh, that's nice. But on them, probably my favorite live album for them. And they split up in 94 and we thought that was it. Right.

[01:06:52] But they reformed in 2000, ended up playing about seven shows in the UK, five nights at the Kentish Town Forum in London. I went to three of them. Yeah. Wow. I'm still annoyed. I didn't go to all five, by the way. But I went to three of them. They released a live album called Cursed Within Sincerity, which is a great album. I'll tell you the one thing that not good at fiddles, but great at bloody album names, aren't they? Cursed Within Sincerity is, I would steal that one.

[01:07:22] Yeah. Yeah. It's a good one. But yeah, just a sort of, you know, amazing, amazing week when they played those five nights in London. So a beautiful memory of that. So that's my number five. Cool. All right. My number five is, we've already talked about them today. So. Is this the first of five Kiss live albums? Shush. No, this is Super Tramp live in Paris, 1979. Yeah.

[01:07:49] So I actually got this album on last year's record store day, I think. Yeah. The one you had me up at four in the morning. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but I had had the CD previously. So this is peak, peak Super Tramp. If you like, honestly, so this is the thing about Super Tramp and this is why this counts for a live album for me. And I'll come back to the adverse element of this in that.

[01:08:17] But their sound, as you now know, being a new Super Tramp fan, is incredibly layered and complex. They pull that off in a live environment. I could tell that from the recording that there'd be a tight live band. Amazing. So some bands that are like prog rock or layered or complex cannot translate. This is proof that they can. And the sax solos go harder, faster, better. No, they're good. They're good.

[01:08:45] But, but this it's, it's amazing. 22 songs and it finishes with Crime of the Century. And in what is like an epic kind of closer, but it's got a heap from Crisis What Crisis because it was of that time. Yeah, right. And you just don't hear those live, but you know, all of the best kind of bits. And I think, yeah, like I said, the reason it makes my top five is because it translates. Yeah.

[01:09:11] It's, it's, it's, it's, it's as good as the record, but it has that live environment and there's a bit of banter and that sort of stuff too. So yeah. Nice. What's your number four? Okay. Number four for me is the only, um, uh, actually, no, I, I say a lie. Uh, two, uh, live albums from Oasis. Oh. Uh, so I've gone with Familiar to Millions, um, which is, uh, from Wembley, uh, in year

[01:09:41] 2000. So standing on the shoulder of Giants time. Yeah. Uh, I was there. I was at those Wembley shows. So, um, actually I was at night two. So this is a, this is, um, from night one. Um, I think with a bit of night two on it as well. And, uh, yeah, it was their first time playing Wembley. Wembley was about to be knocked down. Okay. Um, and rebuilt. Um, so it was quite, you know, a big show for them. They did two nights.

[01:10:08] And, um, if you actually search up, uh, Noel Gallagher's, uh, view of the worst, uh, time in Oasis, uh, it was night two of Wembley. Um, so as the, as, as it played out and as history shows, uh, Liam forgot they were playing two nights, reckons no one told him.

[01:10:56] Um, so he went out after night one and celebrated, shall we say. He was glad that Wembley was being knocked down because this shits for simple minds and Bob Geld off. And, uh, and it culminated with him at the end, um, of the show, 80,000 people there, right? Refusing to leave the stage until everyone else had left. Sat on the, on the stage with the mic. It's epic. This was broadcast live on British TV as well. The show on Sky TV.

[01:11:22] So it's an infamous Oasis, Oasis show that I got to be at. And some of it, of course, from night ones on the familiar to millions, but it was hilarious. And there was a bit of a fallout. Yeah. Uh, cause they were obviously very tabloid at the time. Liam was just hilarious. Think he got doorstopped the next day and, you know, BBC was saying how unprofessional to be drunk in front of, you know, and, and the rock star. Well, yeah.

[01:11:47] And Liam's kind of funny response was, yeah, he was drunk, but so were, so were the audience. You know, what's the problem? Uh, but yeah, it was them, it was them at a, at a kind of chaotic time. That's interesting. Like they capture the chaos of Oasis on that. Yeah. And it was, you know, I've got to say it was the most spellbinding thing to sort of see a band on the brick in front of 80,000. I think that's a, that's a, that's a key bit in kind of rating these live albums, right?

[01:12:15] It's like that moment, it captures a moment of the band as well. That's really interesting. Yeah. It was a great, great night. All right. My number four, you are going to hate and I don't care. Yeah. Tina Marina. She's a great live act. I'm only up to number four. Um, so number four Eagles, hell freezes over 1994. How old are you again? Did I just check? You're just. Old man Ash. Your dislike of the Eagles is unacceptable.

[01:12:45] I can't even, I can't even. We've had this conversation off the pod. I even lent you Hotel California and told you which songs to listen to. You need to, you need to come around on the Eagles because I want to do them on the pod and I need you to, I need you to come around. You need me on board. I need you on board. Um, the Eagles are amazing. Yeah. Yes, I get it. They're a bit daggy dad, but honestly the harmonies, the music. So this was the 1994. So they'd split up in 1980.

[01:13:13] Really like oasis level kind of drama. Um, and, um, they, uh, kind of. So Glenn Frey and Don Henley went off to have pretty good solo career, particularly Don Henley. Um, and then in the early nineties, they managed to come together. So their band manager actually sort of stitched it all up and they did a, um, there was a cover thing with some country music star, Travis Tritt did a cover of Taking It Easy.

[01:13:42] Um, and he got all of the original Eagles to come on his video clip. And, um, that's the first time they'd been in the same room together. And they're like, Oh, this is good. Anyway, they then reformed and did Hell for His Over, which was supposed to be, it was in the era of like kind of MTV unplugged sort of thing. And Don Henley looked like he was in a grunge band. He's got like this coif and like flannel shirts. It's like, mate, I know it's early nineties, but like, that's not for you. Um, it is phenomenal. Yeah.

[01:14:10] The version of Pretty Maids in a Row, Joe Walsh's song on Hell for His Over is my favorite. Oh my God. It just goes off. I'm never going to convince you. So this is, can't say this, but Matthew is looking at me the way that, uh, you look at a small child who is like, say that they've done a good job of their homework and you're like, Hmm, cool. Yeah. Great, great job with the Eagles. I've heard this tale. I've heard this tale. No, you did. I look, I've got it sat upstairs staring at me in the face, the, uh, the vinyl.

[01:14:40] So I will, you know. Anyway, Eagles, Hell freezes over, rocking concert. They then went on and toured the hell out of it. Like it was the most successful concert. Um, because people love the Eagles. They are up there with a, with, with some of the biggest grossing. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's American. So, ah, yeah. Well, but a great band. Like, yeah, I don't love all this stuff, but particularly the Joe Walsh songs and particularly

[01:15:08] the Randy Meiser songs, although he had left the band and was not invited back for the reunion and was also not invited back when they got back together again. So yeah, Eagles number four. I like it. I like it. Okay. Number three for me. Uh, luckily this band, um, did release this as a live album because I was going to go for a live at the BBC for them. Um, but they did actually release this as a concert a couple of years ago on Spotify and it's REM. Oh.

[01:15:37] Live at Glastonbury 1999. Oh gosh. Okay. I have got to hear that. Yeah. So I was, uh, I was probably about three rows from the front. Oh wow. Yeah. So I was at Glastonbury that year and, um, I remember actually when, cause we'd sort of saw a couple of the bands before them to get a good spot for REM. Yeah. And it was in the days as well. There was none of that D stage action going on. There were moments during like everybody hurts where you were sort of having a bit of a, bit of a breather.

[01:16:08] Sort of conscious of 200,000 people behind you. It's just immense. I think I would, I, like sometimes when I see those live concerts, like, you know, the Queen ones or the Guns N' Roses ones where it's like hundreds of, it makes me feel uneasy because I think, what if I need to go to the toilet? Yeah. Yeah, totally. Oh, there was a lot of planning going on. Manic Street Preachers headlined the night before and I wasn't that close to the front, but the, um, front barrier actually went and I had to cut the, cut the music and stop.

[01:16:37] But REM, they're a big band for me. Yeah. They're comfortably in my top five. So how's the live album go? Like, does it record well, given it's a festival? It, it, it's a really good recording actually. And, um, it's, um, it's sort of post monster era REM albums. I think Up or Reveal are the ones that they've released there. So there's a few tracks off it, which I'm kind of, you know, aren't in their sort of dynasty phase, which for me is everything up to monster. Yeah.

[01:17:05] Um, so, um, but you know, it's got all the classics and, uh, there's a great version of it's the end of the world as we know. Wow. Cool. They end with that. Oh yeah. Um, my daughter from a very young age, uh, can recite the. No way. Really? Yeah. That's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. She's got a t-shirt. Can she do, um, can she do Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire as well? Do you know, it's funny. I always think that's the, that's the commercial counterpoint to that. Yeah, it is. But it's a great song. But yeah, my daughter Lucy, I actually bought her a t-shirt a while ago with it's the end

[01:17:35] of the world as we know it. And I feel fine. That's cool. Which still seems to resonate. Yeah, it is. It's such a, that's such a great song. Yeah. But, um, yeah. So, um. So that's your best take off that live album? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Quick anecdote after that night. I've got no recorded photos of that night, which I diligently took along a couple of, uh, disposable cameras back in 99. Yeah. Cause you know what happened to, to young Matthew? What?

[01:18:01] Shout out to my good friend Alex as well, who was with me in the tent. Woke up in the morning after REM. I was like, where are my pants? Where are my trousers? Where are my cargo pants? Yeah. And, uh, you know, didn't think much more of it. Um, and, uh, so anyway, sort of started to get changed later on. You know, and, uh, we realized that some of our things were missing and we're like, what the hell? There must be here somewhere.

[01:18:27] Then Alex sort of just threw in this little, do you remember like sometime like five in the morning, there was some guy in our tent. I was like, no, you know, I was obviously dead to the world. It's like, yeah. I sort of said, what are you doing? And he goes, oh, oh, sorry, mate. Wrong tent. Oh, no, no, no. They robbed us. Oh no. So, um, so my, my shots of that, that concert are forever lost. Probably got developed up in Liverpool somewhere. That's all I'm saying. Um, yeah. So someone stuck with the pants.

[01:18:57] But luckily enough, I knew enough. Cargo pants dealer. I knew enough about, um, funnily enough, my cargo pants were about 10, 10 tents down, but all the tents around us had sort of been robbed. But I knew enough about these scallywags, um, to have my wallet in my pillowcase. Nice. Smart. So I got my cargo pants back, um, for the rest of the weekend. I was really worried about that. Yeah. But I've got no recording shots. No recording. Oh, that's sad. And I remember being there on my disposable camera. Ah, yeah. You know, right up front.

[01:19:28] Stipey. Oh, nice. I know. Yeah. So yeah, that's my, uh, my third REM. All right. Amazing. So I am now up to my number three, which is Nirvana MTV Unplugged. It's got to be there, right? It's got to be there. I didn't include it because I knew you would. Yeah. I thought you would. Yeah. Yeah. So I, um, I must say, I think I'm coming around in a different, Nirvana, I go in waves. I go from, uh, it's overrated, blah, blah, blah.

[01:19:57] And I'm pretty sure when we did overrated last, then you asked about Nirvana, I think, or no, I asked you about Nirvana. Yeah. Anyway, um, this though is such a good recording. It was of its time. It was iconic. Um, the acoustic suit, it was, it was grunge in its kind of all forms in a way that was like, it was so grunge that they could even do an unplugged acoustic set. Right.

[01:20:26] Um, and, and it holds up. I was listening to it again recently and it just holds up and things like something in the way, things like Man Who Sold The World, which his, his cover, I like, oh, this is okay. Hot take alert. I like Nirvana's cover better than I like Bowie's original. Me too. Me too. Yeah. And it's, it feels almost like wrong to say that, but legit it is, it is. Bowie would be okay with that. Yeah. Poor Bowie.

[01:20:55] Um, but yeah, so, uh, it's number three for me. Yeah. Really iconic concert. Well recorded, obviously. Um, and, um, the music is good and it's different to anything else. So I would say it sits there as a, an iconic album in their discography. I agree. I haven't got it on mine cause I've sort of gone a little bit for, you know, sort of my personal experiences, I suppose, but it's people. Well, I was in the front, I was in the front row at that one too.

[01:21:24] Um, and then Kurt pulled me up on the stage and we danced. Yeah. Yeah. That, I'd fortunately, they cut that bit out of the album. I don't know why. Um, but yeah, no, it's, um, it's amazing. Right. And, and the contrast and yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Yep. That's my number three. You're number two. Okay. Number two for me, um, is also a band that sits comfortably in my top 10, which I don't think I've mentioned, uh, a duo actually, the Indigo Girls. Oh. Do you know of this duo?

[01:21:54] Of, but not, not deep. Amy Ray and Emily Saylors. Yeah. Um, so there are, there are, uh, they're, how would you describe them? They're sort of an acoustic duo who often do live band, you know, sort of stuff, but they were in that sort of little fair. Um, they were kind of the alternative of some of those sort of Sarah McLachlan's and, uh, So not like a Mazzy star kind of thing? Uh, a bit more folky.

[01:22:21] Um, Emily sort of brings in this beautiful sort of poetic, uh, side and Amy Ray's a bit more punky. Um, but they are a fantastic band. Um, and comfortably they've sat in my top five over the years. Um, and, um, so this, this, uh, live, uh, it's a compilation, if you'll excuse that of me. Um, but it's a 1200 curfews is what it's called.

[01:22:48] And it's basically documents, um, mid nineties, uh, touring. They're a hard touring, um, band. Uh, and, uh, um, the link with REM is there also from Athens, Georgia. Oh, cool. Michael Stipe actually appeared on their first album on a track called Kid Fears. So they were part of that alternative rock, um, uh, college radio early nineties.

[01:23:13] Um, but Indigo Girls are a beautiful, beautiful band and amazing people as well. Oh, nice. Do a lot of good stuff. Um, I'll have to check it out. What's the, what's the track I should listen to? Closer to Fine. Okay. Um, is, is the song that you may have heard from theirs. Um, but Closer to Fine, Galileo. Uh, but a big favorite of mine, um, from the Swamp Filia album.

[01:23:37] And I think there's a live version is, uh, Language or the Kiss, um, Emily Saylor's is one of the best lyricists that I've ever come across. Like just as a line from that song, it's, um, there was a table set for six and five were there. I stood outside and kept my eyes upon that empty chair. You know, it's just, it's, it's poetry. It really is poetry. Um, so yeah, Indigo Girls, number two, 1200 curfews. Wow. All right.

[01:24:06] That's definitely on my list to check out. Um, okay. So, uh, my number two is, uh, uh, the Who live at Leeds. Yeah. I thought you'd go with that. Deluxe edition. Now there's, this, there's a difference here. Uh, when it came out, this was in 2001. Yeah. Um, younger Ash loved the Who. Yeah. Saw this and thought, Oh my God, I've got to get this. So cool.

[01:24:32] I thought that the actual album live at Leeds was the full list, but didn't realize actually the original release was only half of this. Oh. So this was when they were touring Tommy. Yeah. And so they did Tommy in full and then they did the set and, uh, that did this other set. And, but the original live at Leeds doesn't have the Tommy parts. So it's like missing pinball wizard and all the rest of that. Right.

[01:25:02] Um, and so I kind of always thought that it was a full thing. And then I bought the vinyl because they re-released it recently. Yeah. I reissued it recently. And I was like, where's the rest of it? And it didn't occur to me that I had had the deluxe edition and it was called deluxe edition for a reason. Yeah. So I had the CD, uh, back in the day. Anyway, amazing, amazing concert.

[01:25:25] This is the opposite of, um, super tramp where I feel like here is a band that playing live. It's totally different from their album. Yeah. Um, the Tommy piece is probably a lot tighter, but the rest of it, like there is a, uh, I think my generation is like a, oh, it's like a, a 10 minute version or something like that. It's kind of crazy. Um, and they finished with magic bus, which is awesome, but like they do cover of summertime blues.

[01:25:55] Um, there's, uh, shaken all over. Um, uh, and then the Tommy ones are great. Uh, but, um, obviously, um, uh, you know, some of the, um, can't explain substitute happy Jack, all of that, all of that good early era. Yeah. Um, that wasn't, um, you know, before whose next album came out. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that's my, that's my number two. Oh, good take. Yeah. Number one. They often talk about that being the loudest album ever.

[01:26:25] Oh yeah. It's great. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. And, uh, the recording is really good. The reissue I got because they'd done a remastering and I wanted to hear that. I haven't listened to it for a while. I will. Yeah. Do you know, I, uh, actually, I don't know why I'm talking a lot about Brighton today, but, um, where, where I worked, uh, in Brighton, um, I used to come up and down the Quadrophenia lane. Oh yeah. Phil Daniels. There'll always be lots of Japanese tourists there. Um, yeah. Yeah. The who, great band. Great band. Great band.

[01:26:55] Okay. My number one, um, I think you'll like this one. Um, so it was in a time, you know, now a lot of certainly nineties bands, right? Like say they're gimmicks, but you know, they'll play albums in full or, you know, those sorts of things, I suppose to get, get us excited about those sort of nostalgic things. This seemed like a complete out of the box decision for this band to do. Um, but I was lucky enough and they have released this actually as a, as a, as a CD.

[01:27:26] Um, it was actually, uh, an add on to their best of, um, deluxe edition, but I was lucky enough to be at Wembley arena to see the blur singles night where in 99. So just coming off the back of 13, again, you know, band was in an interesting time there. They were sort of falling apart and nine, uh, and 13 was very experimental album just sort of out of nowhere. And I don't really know why they did it.

[01:27:53] Um, they decided to play all 23 of their singles in order, uh, at Wembley. So, um, it actually started from, uh, they came on and they actually played, I know, which was the double A side to she's so high. But then from there just played every single release right through to no distance left to run. And so did all the country house and, you know, charmless mans and, uh, you know, everything in between girls and boys. Shout out to Great Escape, best blur album.

[01:28:23] Ooh, best blur album. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, it was an amazing concert to be at. Cause like I said, you know, no one was doing that kind of stuff back then. And, um, to sort of have this weird sort of, you knew what was coming next and to follow a band that had shape shifted over the years, you know. Cause it is quite an arc, isn't it? Yeah, it's quite the arc. And, um, I still remember Damon, uh, when he, when he came to country house, he was just like, cause he hadn't made peace with the Oasis blur wars at that stage.

[01:28:53] He did introduce it as role with it actually. And, um, you know, so there was, and Graham Coxon just did everything he could to mess country house up. It was hilarious. It was really, really good. But yeah, no. And, uh, again, shout out to my friend Alex. Cause I still remember, um, um, he was staying with us. Uh, and, uh, we'd gone on holiday, uh, as you do to Spain or something. Right. Oh yeah. And I left Alex one job. So relatable. I left, I left Alex one job. Yeah.

[01:29:23] To get these blur tickets that were going on sale when we were away. And, uh, he did. Oh, good on you. He got great seats, but he does tell me now that he sort of woke up late, panicked and sort of got on the phone late and was terrified that he had let me down. Oh God. Shout out to Alex. He got those tickets and it was a great night. I think we went to a star Wars convention on the morning. Um, that's random.

[01:29:52] Alex was a big star Wars guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. But blur singles night. Fantastic. Awesome. My number one. All right. My number one, Matthew, you wanted the best. You got the best. You've saved the best. The hottest band in the world. Kiss. Uh, yeah.

[01:30:17] So, uh, it's not going to be a surprise to you, but it is kiss alive. Um, 1975 version. Uh, uh, so recorded 1975. This is iconic for a few reasons. The main one being before this came out, the band, um, that had some success, but they weren't breaking through. Yeah. And, uh, this came out and it changed for the band.

[01:30:46] And from then on, so this was before destroyer, which is the kind of, I guess their best, their biggest studio album. Yeah. Although I'm reluctant to be that. That's the one that I give you to convert you on kiss. Right. The album I'm going to give you to convert you on kiss. Yeah. Is this one. Okay. If you listen to this and you still don't like kiss, then I'm okay with it. I can make peace with it. You can make peace, but it is everything that's amazing about it because it has. Are there fiddles?

[01:31:14] Uh, only, uh, in 10 of the songs. Good. Yeah. No, there's no fiddles. Um, so what's amazing about it is it captures the essence of kiss as a live act. Kiss is a visual thing. It is an experience. It is a kiss army and the whole ethos. I remember the AFL grand final entertainment. It was amazing. And that's the thing. But this is early kiss is the other thing. Yeah.

[01:31:43] So it still has this feel of almost like they're outsized. They're always outsized. Now you can hate it for being commercial and you can hate them for Jim Simmons for being that thing. Although his autobiography absolutely slaps, but this is, it just captures an essence. I can see it. I can feel it. I can smell it. Yeah. Um, where, where was it? Where is it a compilation of? It was a compilation of different ones. And actually that's the criticism that this album gets is that, um, is it a pure live album or has it been touched up a bit?

[01:32:12] And I'm pretty confident it has been touched up a bit, but it doesn't matter because that's kiss. And that's, what's so cool about kiss is it doesn't matter. You don't, you can have your Navas, you can have your real deal. You can have your indie stuff, but you can also just have kiss and you can just have a fun time and you can rock and roll all night and party every day. And honestly, I just, it's fun and, and the, and the music's good. The music's good. And so this has a lot of their really good songs on it. I love juice. Uh, I love strata.

[01:32:41] Um, there's an epic, epic kind of, obviously it finishes, um, that concert finished with rock and roll all night that went on to become their single, uh, off this live album. And that's what kind of catapulted a single from it. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. So rock and roll all night came like a top, I think like top 10 single. Yeah. And it catapulted them, even though that had been released previously under another album. Yeah. Um, but black diamond is my pick. Um, listen to that one. Yeah. Um, it's got everything.

[01:33:10] They record the fireworks. It's, oh, it's a whole thing. Yeah. Kiss. Love it. And you knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. I had kiss vibes. Um, yeah, no, that's a good chart. And I, and I will dig in at some point. At some point. Yeah. You'll need to, you'll need to give me some homework. I'll give you that as homework at one point, but I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll give it a beat. So let's get onto that now. Anyway. Yeah. Great top five battle. Um, I think some really interesting ones. It's interesting. We took two different sort of takes. You took that more personal journey.

[01:33:38] I mean, obviously I was, um, in the front row of that kiss album, uh, recording as well. And James was pulling up on the stage, uh, to dance with him as well. He actually was just Googling. And apparently you gave Kurt the, uh, little cardi. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It was a nice thing to do. Yeah. He looked like he needed a hug. He did. Oh, he actually really did. Didn't he? It was. That was a. I mean, Kurt's up there with Bowie, right? I know. I know. Like, and I think I'm turning, I think I'm turning around on Nirvana. Yeah. Most of us have been listening to a lot more of it.

[01:34:07] I mean, Kurt's up there with Bowie. I say it in the sense of in the sad way that we didn't get more. Bowie obviously got more runs on the board. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Icon. But. Oh, yeah. Also it was a long, around long enough to also have some pretty bleak times in the nineties. And let's not forget to. Yeah. Yeah. There's questionable fashion choices in that too. Yeah. I think that's the challenge with Kurt Cobain is we never got to see what happened. Afterwards. No. And there's a real kind of element around that. Like Foo Fighters would Foo Fighters.

[01:34:37] Well, I mean, obviously Foo Fighters wouldn't have existed had Nirvana not finished, but you think, holy hell, he was sitting there behind the drums. Yeah. Imagine what they could have done if they'd really opened that up, but would they have been able to? I don't know. And, you know, on a REM angle as well, you know, Kurt was pretty close with Michael Stipe and I, I always thought the, the unplugged, you know, was probably going to show that side of them a bit more in the future. Yeah. Just what a loss. Yeah. Yeah. Super loss.

[01:35:06] But yeah, interesting, different kind of focus on our top fives. But I think live albums, it's either got to have a personal connection or it's got to be one of these things that fits the musician. Or I think what I've learned from these top fives is it gives you a different take on that band and those songs. It's, it's, it's legitimately adds you something more. So my one kind of honorable mention, which I will say, I didn't have this on my list because it's too new and too recent,

[01:35:34] but I prefer this to the recorded album. Ready for the hot take. Radio heads, hail to the thief live sessions, 2003 to 2008. Yeah. Prefer that to the actual recording. Have you got that? Yeah. Yeah. See, I haven't picked that up yet, but I have. It is two things. One, it's a single LP, so I don't have to change records. Love that. Yeah. Two, the live version of, um, there, there. Yeah. Absolutely crushes it.

[01:36:02] It's got two plus two on it as well, isn't it? Yeah. It's got, it's got all the songs. So it's like the album, but it's just, cause it's cut from different live recordings in the era. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. So hail to the thief, um, live, live 2003 to 2008. That's your secret live album track. Yeah. That's my, yeah. DC. I always get a secret one in. All right. Um, and this has been another, uh, big, a big thing. We'll quickly do our homework. Yeah. What's for me? Okay. For you, um, I'm going to go Swampophilia by the Indigo Girls. Okay, cool. Yeah.

[01:36:32] All right. Get into it. All right. I'm good. Cause I wanted to have a listen to them. So that'll help me with that. And I'm going to give you Neil Young, Harvest Moon. So not Harvest. Um, although you can listen to that too. Yeah. That's amazing. I do know Harvest. Yeah. But Harvest Moon. Um, but, uh, and then, yeah, we'll be back next time and we'll have a special guest star. So, uh, Candace is going to join us and she's going to be our musical Sherpa as we explore big, heavy stuff. We're going to get into the heavy, heavy music.

[01:37:01] Now we're going to get into some metal and, um, there'll be no fiddles. Uh, anyway, no, no, no Bell and Sebastian. No, no, that's right. Yeah. But we will listen to Tina Arena's metal album, which is really good. Chains. Yeah. Chains. Yeah. Metal chains. I would listen to that. I think she'd be great. Front of metal band. All right. That's enough. Okay. Thanks everyone. Thank you. Bye.